The 2010 Heisman Hopeful Debate… First Noel For Heisman

August 30, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Sports Geek and Loyal Homer.

Before I launch into my Heisman Trophy hopeful nominee, here’s an indictment of the whole “whittle down the Heisman list in August” movement, despite the fact that we here at TSD are proudly contributing to the problem.

When I was younger I used to think the Heisman Trophy was truly the award for the best player in college football. As I’ve gotten older, the award seems to have morphed into the trophy generally given to the best player who was on national TV a lot, had a highlight reel play, and was mercilessly promoted by ESPN’s studio personnel. Given all that, if I’m going to add to the commentary and noise surrounding a trophy awarded four months from now, I’m going to submit a deserving underdog candidate to all of our loyal readers.

Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce Noel Devine, senior running back from West Virginia University.

Serious college football fans are aware of Devine’s talent, but he has yet to achieve national notoriety despite his aggressive, highlight-creating running style and speed. Part of this may be intentional on Devine’s part given the distinct lack of publicity surrounding his recruitment. While recruiting analysts waxed poetic about his talents and a wide variety of YouTube videos displayed his jaw-dropping abilities for the denizens, Devine and those around him were generally people of few (or no) words. In my view, this is refreshing given the publicity hounds that seem to populate the high school football recruiting world. Unfortunately, this lack of self-promotion makes it difficult to mount a Heisman campaign. That is why I would like to help him out. I’m sure that the power of this post will be worth dozens of Heisman votes when all is said and done, in the same way that I would handily defeat Mr. Devine in a foot race. Hey, maybe I’ll at least win the poll for this debate!

Now that I’ve given you the personal reasons why I think he should win, let’s get to his statistics. His statistics alone make him deserving of a trip to New York this December. First, Devine had a dazzling 2009 season that largely flew under the radar. He rushed for 1,465 yards on 241 carries, an average of 6.1 yards per carry. He also racked up 13 touchdowns on the ground. Beyond his notable rushing production, Devine took care of the football. He did not lose a fumble during the 2009 season despite those 241 carries. In fact, Devine has not lost a fumble during this three-year career at West Virginia. Noel, I hope I didn’t jinx you for this year by mentioning that statistic!

The good news for Devine is that there are high hopes for the Mountaineers this season. If they achieve the predicted level of success there will be plenty of national opportunities for Devine to make his case to the Heisman voters. Additionally, he is expected to be the featured component of the customarily potent West Virginia offense.

If Devine stays healthy this season I sincerely hope the voters recognize a player who lets his production do his talking rather than his sideline antics or his grace in front of the cameras. If that is the case, no couch may be safe in Morgantown this December.

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The Best NCAA Football Player to Stay in School Debate – Overpaying or Securing the Future?

January 29, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Sports Geek and Bleacher Fan about which NFL draft eligible college football player that decided to stay in school is the best player?



Last Wednesday, The Sports Debates has the Best Underclassmen Going Pro debate. In that debate, we discussed who we thought was going to be the best pro out of all the underclassmen that declared for the draft. Today we are taking a different perspective – who is the best underclassmen to remain in school, and therefore, delay his entry into the draft? I had to do a little research on this since Sports Geek claimed the first name that popped into my mind. But with all due credit to Ryan Mallet, I am pretty confident in saying that West Virginia running back Noel Devine is the best underclassmen returning to school.

I know some are surprised to see me not choose Washington quarterback Jake Locker due to the amount of praise I often give him in conversations with others (just a hint of sarcasm here). But it is just too difficult to pass on Noel Devine.

Devine, who seemingly has been playing for the Mountaineers forever, but still has a year of eligibility left, had a very good 2009 season. He finished with 1,465 yards rushing and 13 touchdowns. He was able to build upon a good sophomore campaign, and for his career he has amassed over 3,000 rushing yards and 23 touchdowns .

I admit that I would like to see head coach Bill Stewart use Devine more in special teams. Devine was very active in special teams his freshman year in 2007, when he had over 500 returns yards. But he had less than 200 total return yards COMBINED the past two seasons. I hate to use the old cliché, but I’m going to do it anyway – Devine is a threat to score a touchdown every time he touches the ball. That is the phrase everyone used when describing Clemson phenom C.J. Spiller this past season. At 5 feet 8 inches and 176 pounds, Devine has the elusiveness to score at any time thanks to registering a 4.15 time in the 40 yard dash. Don’t let that size fool you, though. He still has power, as evidenced by his ability to bench press 435 pounds and squat 500 pounds. That is impressive, folks!

It is also important to note that Devine became the main weapon on the Mountaineers team with the departure of current Miami Dolphins Pat White, who was another one of those players who seemingly played college football forever. Being the focal point of the offense allowed Devine a chance to shine and grow into the spotlight that had previously been held by White and Steve Slaton.

If West Virginia has any aspirations of getting back into the national spotlight after a couple of 9-4 seasons, it will rest on the shoulders of Noel Devine. If the Mountaineers are able to do that, we might see Devine pop up on some Heisman ballots.

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The Big East in the BCS Debate – Big East, or Big Least?

July 15, 2009

Read the debate intro, Loyal Homer’s argument that the BCS does not deserve an automatic BCS bowl bid, and Bleacher Fan’s argument that it does.

Well, nothing brings out passion like a nice college football debate, and this debate is no different. Even before the first argument was published, folks were all “atwitter” about whether this was a valid debate topic. When reviewing the Big East’s record from recent seasons, it’s obviously a debate topic.

This is a difficult verdict, because the debaters concentrated on one year, 2008, by which to judge the Big East’s contribution to the BCS and college football. This approach further reinforces the “what have you done for me lately” mentality that plagues American sports culture, and college football fandom. So, for this verdict, I’ll acknowledge recent history, then add in some historical context.

Bleacher Fan brought up last year’s bowl season, claiming that the Big East was impressive because 75 percent of their football schools (six) made bowl games. I completely reject this as a valid metric for two reasons. First, there are 34 – 34!!! – bowl games on the docket for the 2009-2010 season. That means 68 teams need to be “eligible” for bowl games. Plus, even Conference USA had 50 percent of their teams bowl eligible. It is not a stretch to discern that many of the teams who played in bowl games year were not deserving. Second, the ACC had 10 bowl teams last year, and many of the Big East defenders who have commented here and on our Twitter timeline are claiming that the Big East is not as bad as the ACC. However, “they suck, so we can suck to” is not a valid argument.

Last season did not yield many quality non-conference wins for the Big East, either. The only true quality win by anyone in the Big East was South Florida’s win over then-ranked #11 Kansas. A good win. But, compare that to the other top teams in the conference:

  • Cincinnati: The conference champ lost to ACC winner Virginia Tech and #5 ranked Oklahoma, their only two opportunities for quality non-conference wins all season.
  • Pittsburgh: Opened their season with a non-conference loss to Bowling Green and needed four overtimes to defeat a 3-9 Notre Dame team.
  • West Virginia: Their only quality non-conference opportunities were Colorado and East Carolina… both of which they lost.
  • Rutgers: Another Big East bowl eligible team lost to Fresno State, North Carolina (their only quality non-conference opportunities) and even lost to Navy.

Contrast that mess with what a non-automatic BCS bid conference like the Mountain West did. Their champ, Utah, defeated an Oregon State team that the week prior beat #1 in the country Southern Cal, and defeated Alabama – handily – in a BCS bowl game. Ouch to the Big East. Not a good recent record for the conference to make a stand.

But, it can’t all be about 2008… though it’s hard to deny that the Big East is not just following a trend.

Some history. How has the Big East done through the history of the BCS (read: quality non-conference games). Here’s the list since the inception of the BCS in 1998:

  • 1998 Conference Champ: Syracuse (8-3) loses to Florida 31-10 in the Orange Bowl. 0-1
  • 1999 Conference Champ: Virginia Tech (now ACC) (11-0) loses to Florida State 46-29 in the Fiesta Bowl. 0-2
  • 2000 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (10-1) beats Florida 37-20 in the Sugar Bowl. 1-2
  • 2001 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (11-0) beat Nebraska 37-14 in the Rose Bowl. 2-2
  • 2002 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (12-0) loses to Ohio State 31-24 in the Fiesta Bowl. 2-3
  • 2003 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (10-2) beats Florida State 16-14 in the Orange Bowl. 3-3
  • 2004 Conference Champ: Pittsburgh (8-3) loses to Utah 35-7 in the Fiesta Bowl. 3-4
  • 2005 Conference Champ: West Virginia (10-1) beat Georgia 38-35 in the Sugar Bowl. 4-4
  • 2006 Conference Champ: Louisville (11-1) beats Wake Forest 24-13 in the Orange Bowl. 5-4
  • 2007 Conference Champ: West Virginia (10-2) beats Oklahoma 48-28 in the Fiesta Bowl. 6-4
  • 2008 Conference Champ: Cincinnati (11-3) loses to Virginia Tech 20-7 in the Orange Bowl. 6-5

One national championship is pretty good. But, the Big East has never – NEVER – received an at-large BCS bid for one of their teams. To contrast, the Big 10 (seven), SEC (five), Big 12 (four), Independent (three), Pac-10 (two), WAC (two), and Mountain West (two) have all received them. The only other conference with an at-large goose egg is the ACC.

And the overall 6-5 historical record is average, and far below average when considering that three of those wins (including the championship) belong to a program that is no longer in the conference.

The resume is unimpressive from the Big East, both recent history and a deeper dive into the BCS. Is it enough to jettison the conference from the ranks of the BCS automatic qualifiers? Yes. So I must award the victory to…

LOYAL HOMER!!!!!

While Bleacher Fan offered many, many excuses for the Big East, Loyal Homer had one valid point that stood out: Attendance figures are dwindling for Big East football programs. Though a small but steady slide is apparent, recent performances, combined with a poor history against the best competition in college football, has not won fans back. Attendance is important because it translates to the strength –and willingness to travel – in the diehard fan base. Additionally, losing the heart and soul of Big East football tradition to the ACC has completely reversed expectations for Big East football. When Connecticut does well (starting last season 5-0) the collective national voice is “surprised.” There is no team that is expected to dominate year in and year out – a respect requisite in college football.

When the BCS charter expires in 2014, the committee must take a long look at whether the Big East belongs among the ranks of the automatic bids. According to the arguments presented here, they don’t.


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The Big East in the BCS Debate – Is the Big East Deserving of an Automatic Bid?

July 14, 2009

Read Bleacher Fan’s argument that the Big East does deserve an automatic bid to a BCS bowl game, and Loyal Homer’s argument that the conference does not.



Does everyone remember their SAT analogies? Let’s try one. Orange is to fruit what lettuce is to… ? Yup, vegetables. Very good. Here’s another one. The Big East Conference is to football what Crystal Pepsi is to cola. Er, was.

Recent history has not been kind to Big East football. It all began in 2004 when the University of Miami and Virginia Tech decided to leave the confines of the Big East for greener pastures in the Atlanta Coast Conference. Once a proud conference boasting 16 teams (only eight participate in football) and consistent college football relevance, the migration of those two powerhouses, followed by solid Boston College in 2005, has ripped the conference’s football guts out. The Big East was forced to turn to football poor Conference USA to make up for the lost teams, bringing in Louisville, University of South Florida, and Cincinnati.

The mark of a great football team – and by extension a great conference – is how well they perform in pressure-filled road games. In each of the last four years, only one football program in the entire conference has a winning road record. One. That team is West Virginia with an impressive 11-3 road record (though it remains to be seen how well they’ll do without Pat White under center). In fact, only four schools (five seasons in total) have had just one winning season in the last four years. Unimpressive.

There are little talking points that media guide aficionados will use to claim the Big East has maintained its football relevance in 2009. Items like the fact that Pittsburgh is returning 15 starters. But, Cincinnati is returning only one starter on defense (and they are not returning their defensive coordinator, either). Syracuse has had 14 scholarship players defect since new coach Doug Marrone arrived, forcing many freshman and inexperienced players into high profile roles in the coming season. I could go on…

While the past four years have been tough, signs point to another struggle this year for Big East football.

Which brings us today’s question: Does the Big East still deserve an automatic conference BCS bowl bid?

Bleacher Fan will argue that the Big East is still one of the six best college football conferences and deserving of their automatic BCS bowl bid.

Loyal Homer will argue that the BCS has lost their legitimate right to an automatic conference BCS bowl bid.

Apologies to our friends in upstate New York and Big East country. But, this is worth debating only because of how the Big East has played in the last four years. Even you have to admit they’ve been awful.

Good luck to the debaters. I hope neither of you “pulls a Big East.”


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