The Terrelle Pryor Growth Debate – It Is Not the Coaching, It Is the Player

October 29, 2009

Read the debate intro and Bleacher Fan’s argument that Terrelle Pryor is not being properly used by the Ohio State coaching staff.

Craig Krenzel and Troy Smith. What do these two former Ohio State quarterbacks have in common? Well, the common trait is NOT finesse, grace, smarts, or speed. The common trait is that the coaching staff – led by head coach/chief play caller/chief vest wearer Jim Tressel – squeezed every last droplet of ability out of both players. Are fans and observers really supposed to believe the Tressel simply forgot how to coach, misdiagnosed a player’s ability, or benefited from existing talent in Krenzel and Smith?

Loyal Homer asks Bleacher Fan and I to ponder why supposed phenom quarterback Terrelle Pryor is struggling so visibly as quarterback of the Buckeyes. It is easy to blame the coaches, the schemes, the strategies, the opposing defenses, and any number of excuses. However, excuses do not excuse, as my Dad used to say. The only person to blame for the struggles of Terrelle Pryor in Columbus is Terrelle Pryor.

Terrelle Pryor’s game, for all of the preseason/pre-career accolades the youngster received, is not dynamic. The promised dual threat QB has been decidedly solitary in his game plan execution. Pryor so believes in being a drop back passer – knowing that his greatest potential upside in the NFL comes from being a good pocket quarterback – that he refuses to tuck the ball and run when that is the best outcome for his current team, The Ohio State Buckeyes. The statistics belie Pryor’s focus:

  • Navy: Pryor rushes just six times for 30 yards.
  • Southern Cal: Pryor rushes ten times for 36 yards.
  • Toledo: Pryor rushes 12 times for 110 yards (though the opponent IS Toledo).
  • Illinois: Pryor rushes 11 times for 59 yards.
  • Indiana: Pryor rushes 16 times for 63 yards.
  • Wisconsin: Pryor rushes ten times for 35 yards.
  • Purdue: Pryor rushes 21 times for 34 yards.

See the trend? As the season wears on Tressel has called more quarterback running and option plays because Pryor has chosen to stand in the pocket rather than use his legs to pick up yards and important first downs. The called running plays are also much less effective and more predictable than Pryor simply taking what the defense gives him. See the 3.5 yards per carry against Wisconsin and the 1.6 yards per carry against Purdue.

Pryor should be running the ball whenever he has an easy opportunity to pick up yards. That easy opportunity comes more than six or even 16 times a game when considering the increasing number of called runs from Tressel. Somehow a player with Pryor’s running ability and strength has been sacked 13 times this season with a total loss of yards exceeding 100! Too often Pryor is trying to out maneuver defenders in the backfield in a futile attempt to create time when the better play is to step up in the pocket and take the few yards available.

The irony to Pryor’s talent dichotomy is the more he runs when the defense gives him space, the more open receivers will open up downfield. The current approach has yielded just over seven yards per throw and a whopping nine interceptions. Better recognition of the defense and situations combined with improved decision making is can reverse the trend. The problem is that for Pryor a major disconnect exists between his perception of a situation and reality.

In a recent interview with Cleveland Plain Dealer reporter Doug Lesmerises Pryor said,”Some offensive teams, they don’t get to their peak until midseason. Sometimes you get down, but you’ve got to jump back up and get confident again. I feel real comfortable this week. I think we can light up the scoreboard.”

Confidence is good. Misplaced confidence is dangerous. Terrelle Pryor needs a dose of reality – he is underperforming.

Perhaps his personally dismal performance against Purdue – 17-31 for 221 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs and 21 rushes for 34 yards – was the wakeup call Pryor needed. He played much better in the next game against Minnesota, and even delivered an uncharacteristically vulnerable – and therefore inspiring – speech to his team. During a meeting for the offense prior to the Minnesota game Pryor took the floor and said, “I’m sorry for not approaching things the way I should.” A dose of reality?

Now, back to the list of Pryor’s rushing stats, since the team’s most recent game against Minnesota is not yet listed:

  • Minnesota: Pryor rushes 15 times for 104 yards.

The Minnesota game featured fewer called running plays for Pryor and more comfort in taking advantage of the gaps in the defensive coverage to pick up easy yards with his feet.

One of the big lessons from Pryor’s struggles is that confidence is earned… or it is empty. Empty confidence is how American Idol stays in business with those terrible, delusional singers at the beginning of each season. Earned confidence results from studying and making smart decisions. If Pryor simply studies and makes smart decisions he will never have to worry about performing up to expectations and “being” a leader. He will showcase his immense physical gifts and the team will simply follow.

For any quarterback, everything boils down to choices. Does Pryor choose to be Ohio State’s quarterback and use the fullness of his gifts? Or does Pryor choose to be an NFL prospect at the expense of his teammates and the fans? Time will tell if Pryor has actually turned an important attitude corner. One fact is certain – the only thing holding back Terrelle Pryor is Terrelle Pryor.

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The Best Game of THIS Weekend Debate – Two Teams Too Overrated?

October 16, 2009

Read Bleacher Fan and Loyal Homer’s arguments for which games they believe are the best of the upcoming weekend.

How can two college football teams at complete opposite ends of the AP top 25 poll both be overrated?

The sixth ranked team in the country, the Southern Cal Trojans, visits the 25th ranked Notre Dame Fighting Irish this Saturday. Both teams are 4-1 on a season just beginning to hit middle age, and both teams are desperate for a win.

Southern Cal’s schedule to this point is somewhat questionable. After giving up 15 points to Ohio State and 16 points to Washington in consecutive weeks, the defense has allowed only 12 combined points in the other three games. On the surface that stat is likely impressive. However the competition, San Jose State, Washington State, and California (talk about overrated…), have proven to not be strong teams. Ohio State, despite scoring 15 points, appears to have a very poor offense. Therefore the usually tough USC defense has yet to be truly tested this season, and Notre Dame is the perfect offense to do just that.

After a shootout loss to Michigan in the second week of the season, Notre Dame has put up a scoring clinic, despite the loss of one of its most reliable pass receivers, Michael Floyd. In Floyd’s place receiver Golden Tate has stepped up as one of the elite receivers in all of college football and a favorite target of suddenly Heisman worthy quarterback Jimmy Clausen. Clausen leads an aerial attack from Notre Dame that has performed well to this point in the season. Clausen has thrown for an impressive 12 touchdowns already and averages over 308 yards of passing per game. Irish head coach Charlie Weiss appears to finally have the type of quarterback his systems requires after two long years of waiting and watching a young quarterback make all the mistakes necessary to learn. The Irish have balance on offense with an average of nearly 150 yards gained on the ground per game in the 2009 season, led by running back Armando Allen who runs for over 91 yards per game. Notre Dame likely has the most balanced and formidable offensive attack that Southern Cal has seen all season.

On offense for the Trojans, young quarterback Matt Barkley is back under center, and he will be facing a variety of confusing coverage and blitzes from Irish defensive coordinator Jon Tenuta. Barkley did not looked very rattled against the toughest defense he faced to this point in his college career, Ohio State. However, Ohio State plays a different style of defense that is much more reliant upon zone coverage and pressure from the front four on the defensive line. Tenuta loves to blitz, and he will call blitzes from the defensive backfield with the safeties, the cornerbacks, and the linebackers… and any mixture of blitzes featuring those positions. Tenuta believes in disruption and confusion, and has mastered both as a successful defensive coordinator in college football for over a decade.

The mainstream sports media seems to believe this game is between Irish starting quarterback Jimmy Clausen and the entire Trojan team. It is true that the Clausen and his burgeoning Heisman candidacy is a legitimate featured story in this game. However, he is not the biggest story. The biggest story is that Notre Dame has a very good opportunity to win this game. There is no question that a shoot out type of game gives the Irish an edge, as the Trojans offense with youthful leadership has yet to develop into the customarily potent brand of defense fans have come to expect.

Ohio State failed where Notre Dame can succeed against the Trojans – offense. Southern Cal has a tough matchup in this game and will need a strong game plan and perfect execution. They will not get any luck. That, we know, belongs to the Irish.

Can Clausen vault himself into the lead of the Heisman race? Can Southern Cal prove they are a top five team and not overrated? Can Notre Dame exercise the demons and prove their value on a national scale? For these and many reasons, USC-Notre Dame is the best game of THIS weekend.

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The Best Game of the THIS Weekend Debate – Could Lightning Strike Twice?

September 18, 2009

Read Loyal Homer and Bleacher Fan’s argument for what they believe is the best game of the upcoming weekend.

It was a brisk September day in the upper Northwest. Southern Cal was preparing for a game they were all too happy to be playing. Their confidence was riding high after just defeating top ten ranked Ohio State the week before. All of the college football experts around the country were handing them a spot in the BCS national title game. The running game was clicking and the defense looked as solid as it ever had since Pete Carroll first took the coaching reigns.

Sounds like 2009, right? Wrong. That is a description of the week after USC beat Ohio State in 2008. You know, the week of game preparation leading up to their surprising defeat at the hands of the Oregon State Beavers.

The Trojans were confident after dismantling what was believed to be the best team in the country early in the 2008 season in Ohio State. But, they were surprised in Corvallis, Oregon by a well coached, fast team led by a little (he is 5’7”) and little known running back named Jacquizz Rodgers. Rodgers slashed and dashed his way to 186 yards against the Trojans and a pair of scores en route to a 27-21 victory on the strength of a big first half.

Southern Cal’s trip up to the Pacific Northwest must feel familiar to Carroll, even though most of the defense and his young freshman quarterback Matt Barkley do not remember last season. The Trojans are taking on a Washington Huskies team in Seattle on Saturday that has put up 65 points in its first two games this season. The Huskies bear some resemblance to last season’s Beavers, too. The Beavers scored 59 points in their final two games before taking on the Trojans last season.

The Huskies are led by the multi-talented/rarely healthy Jake Locker under center. Locker has already throw five touchdown passes in two games and is completing 60 percent of his passes. What makes Locker such a difficult player to handle is that he is also the team’s second leading rusher with 69 yards and a touchdown in two games.

Like Rodgers last season, Washington has a small (5’11”) and speedy running back that could catch the Trojans off guard. Freshman tailback Chris Polk has already rushed for 170 years and a touchdown on the young season, and has the skills to do some damage against the Trojans.

Washington is also coached by former Trojan offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian. Sarkisian knows the Trojan’s tendencies and their offense inside and out.

The best game of THIS weekend is Southern Cal visiting the Washington Huskies not because of the great history or the high rankings. It is because the third ranked Trojans are a good possibility to get defeated on Saturday by a smart coach with an edge and a group of highly motivated players. Sounds like the ingredients for a delicious upset, and a great football game.

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The Best Team Not To Win It All Debate, College Football Edition – The Jilted 2004 Auburn Tigers

September 1, 2009

Read Bleacher Fan and Loyal Homer’s arguments for which college football was the best team not to win a championship in the last decade.



It is only day two of football week here at The Sports Debates, and my mouth is watering like my five month old when I get the spoon full of sweet potatoes near his mouth. It is hard to believe that competitive football that counts is just two more agonizing days away.

What a great time to discuss the best college football team of the last decade to NOT win a championship. When considering the many options with my usual historical eye (and the frustration of not being able to select such historical sleepers as the 1981 Pittsburgh Panthers and the 1981 Georgia Bulldogs, for two quick examples), my mind is stuck on the injustice served up to the 2004 Auburn Tigers. With the many political behind the scenes influences that surely berthed the BCS title game of Oklahoma and Southern Cal, Auburn was left on the outside looking in despite finishing their season as division champions, undefeated, and as one of the best college football teams in modern – or any –history.

Auburn finished second in the Associated Press poll in 2004. They leapfrogged the humbled Oklahoma Sooners, who received a severe beat down at the hands of the USC Trojans Auburn even garnered three first place votes to go along with their 13-0 record. What further legitimizes the frustration of Tiger fans around the country is that they WERE in the coveted number two spot in the polling in the middle of November. Normally, if a team is ranked second in the country on November 14, does not lose another game the entire season, AND wins its conference championship game in the unanimously determined toughest conference in college football, they are sure locks for at least one of the two spots in the national title game. For whatever reason, the voters felt Oklahoma should surge ahead of the Tigers just before Thanksgiving in 2004. The shift in voting that put the Sooners ahead prevented the Tigers from having their legitimate shot to prove they were the best team in the country.

It is important to keep from concentrating solely on how the Tigers were wronged. They were also really, REALLY good. The 13-0 record was no joke, as they navigated a very difficult SEC schedule. The first tough game of the season they defeated LSU at home 10-9. The next few tough games were not as close, traveling to Knoxville and beating a very good Tennessee team 34-10, then defeating other SEC West foes Arkansas, Kentucky, and Mississippi by a combined 115-44. Then they ended the season with three consecutive pressure-packed, all or nothing games. First they dominated Georgia 24-6, then traveled to beat hated rival Alabama 21-13 in the Iron Bowl before knocking off Tennessee for a second time 38-28 in the conference championship game.

Conventional thinking about an SEC team (and I am writing this from Ohio, so there is no pro SEC bias) is that SEC teams do not have to take on a tough non-conference schedule because they play eight of the toughest conference games of any team in the nation. I agree completely, and it was true in 2004, as well. The best team in the toughest conference that gets an added bonus of a win in the conference championship game should play in the national title. That simply was not the case in 2004.

The talent on the Auburn Tigers in 2004 was remarkable as well. A record four Auburn Tigers were drafted in the first round of the 2005 NFL draft. In fact, Auburn was the first program in the history of the SEC to have four players drafted in the first round of the NFL draft in the same season. Must have been a good team, eh? The players included three in the top ten: running back Ronnie Brown second, running back Cadillac Williams fifth and cornerback Carlos Rogers ninth. Quarterback Jason Campbell was also taken at pick number 25. The team had other good players, but the offense dominated and hogged the ball while the defense hit hard and held down some potent offenses. (Some people might forget that current New York Giants running back Brandon Jacobs was also recruited to this Auburn team, but transferred to Southern Illinois because he could not find playing time.)

The 2004 Auburn Tigers are the best team never to win a national championship because they were penalized for their style. They were not a flashy team that ran up the score like the pass-happy Sooners or a nationally famous showy team like the Trojans. They were from a state that, at the time, had one AP vote (the AP used to comprise a third of the BCS formula in 2004). They did not have the pull to get in the title game, even if they did have the record and the talent.

When chatting with Bleacher Fan about the subject of my article there was some disagreement. Bleacher Fan seems to think that my argument must prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Auburn WOULD have beaten Southern Cal if the title game included those two teams. While I do concede that the BCS failed to properly award a true national champion that season, I refuse to accept the idea that I must prove that one way or another. While I believe that Auburn’s prowess on the ground would have helped them control the clock and keep USC’s explosive offense on the sidelines, and that the Auburn secondary’s hard hitting and penchant for playmaking would have been difficult for USC to score 20+ points on, the fact that Auburn never even got to play in the game is indisputably the most overt injustice toward any team in the history of college football. They were never even afforded the opportunity to prove they belonged on the field – when they very much DID belong with the top programs in the country.

Perhaps a reason the Tigers are not top of everyone’s mind for this dubious moniker is because they were not in the championship game. However, their dynamic offense and fierce defense prove they were a good enough team to compete and win that game. The talent on the team is one of the best collections of offensive talent in the history of NCAA football. They were an undefeated team, an increasingly rare accomplishment in the modern era of college football. They were defeated by politics, not pigskin, and they were the best team never to win a title.

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The Psychology of the Pre-Season Poll Debate – What is the Function of a Pre-Season Poll?

July 30, 2009

Read Sports Geek’s argument that a pre-season poll should forecast how the season will end and Loyal Homer’s argument that it should provide a real-time snapshot of the best teams in college football.



Football is just around the corner. As we wait with bated breath for the release of the college football preseason top 25 rankings, questions abound regarding where the each team will fall.

Florida is a likely candidate for the number one spot, but what about Texas, or Oklahoma? Where does the Pac-10 or the Big Ten come into the equation? How do you rank Southern Cal and Ohio State when they will be playing each other early in September?

With all the speculation swirling around, it makes me wonder how to interpret the pre-season polls once they are released. For example, if Florida does in fact receive the number one ranking, does that mean that the pollsters feel that the Gators are pre-season favorites to win the BCS National Championship, or does it mean that they are just ranked as the best team TODAY, and we’ll have to wait and see if they still are the best team tomorrow?

For the 2008 season, Georgia was named the pre-season number one team, but they finished the season without even making a BCS appearance, instead facing Michigan State in the Capital One Bowl. Does that mean the pollsters were wrong when they filled out their pre-season ballots, or were the Bulldogs in fact the best team in the country at the time of the polling?

In fairness, no one possesses the clairvoyance of Carnac the Magnificent, so predicting the future is impossible. Does that mean that the pollsters get a bye if their preseason pick for number one loses the first three games of the season?

It is for this reason that I look to my esteemed colleagues for assistance.

What is the better philosophy to employ when a developing a college football pre-season poll?

Obviously these are consensus polls, so opinions will differ from one voter to the next. However, shouldn’t the general principle on who to vote for be the same, regardless of the person voting?

With that thought in mind, Sports Geek will argue that the best philosophy when constructing a pre-season poll is to rank the teams in order of which is most likely to win the National Championship. After all, isn’t that who the number one team is at the end of the season?

On the other hand, Loyal Homer will argue that the best philosophy is to vote based on the current state of the teams. Rather than attempt prognostication, a pollster should rank the teams based solely on who they feel the best team is TODAY, understanding that circumstances arise which may change the status of who the best team is TOMORROW.

As I gaze into my crystal ball, I see… a bicycle in the basement of the Alamo! No, wait, I see the winner of this debate. And it is…

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The Big East in the BCS Debate – Big East, or Big Least?

July 15, 2009

Read the debate intro, Loyal Homer’s argument that the BCS does not deserve an automatic BCS bowl bid, and Bleacher Fan’s argument that it does.

Well, nothing brings out passion like a nice college football debate, and this debate is no different. Even before the first argument was published, folks were all “atwitter” about whether this was a valid debate topic. When reviewing the Big East’s record from recent seasons, it’s obviously a debate topic.

This is a difficult verdict, because the debaters concentrated on one year, 2008, by which to judge the Big East’s contribution to the BCS and college football. This approach further reinforces the “what have you done for me lately” mentality that plagues American sports culture, and college football fandom. So, for this verdict, I’ll acknowledge recent history, then add in some historical context.

Bleacher Fan brought up last year’s bowl season, claiming that the Big East was impressive because 75 percent of their football schools (six) made bowl games. I completely reject this as a valid metric for two reasons. First, there are 34 – 34!!! – bowl games on the docket for the 2009-2010 season. That means 68 teams need to be “eligible” for bowl games. Plus, even Conference USA had 50 percent of their teams bowl eligible. It is not a stretch to discern that many of the teams who played in bowl games year were not deserving. Second, the ACC had 10 bowl teams last year, and many of the Big East defenders who have commented here and on our Twitter timeline are claiming that the Big East is not as bad as the ACC. However, “they suck, so we can suck to” is not a valid argument.

Last season did not yield many quality non-conference wins for the Big East, either. The only true quality win by anyone in the Big East was South Florida’s win over then-ranked #11 Kansas. A good win. But, compare that to the other top teams in the conference:

  • Cincinnati: The conference champ lost to ACC winner Virginia Tech and #5 ranked Oklahoma, their only two opportunities for quality non-conference wins all season.
  • Pittsburgh: Opened their season with a non-conference loss to Bowling Green and needed four overtimes to defeat a 3-9 Notre Dame team.
  • West Virginia: Their only quality non-conference opportunities were Colorado and East Carolina… both of which they lost.
  • Rutgers: Another Big East bowl eligible team lost to Fresno State, North Carolina (their only quality non-conference opportunities) and even lost to Navy.

Contrast that mess with what a non-automatic BCS bid conference like the Mountain West did. Their champ, Utah, defeated an Oregon State team that the week prior beat #1 in the country Southern Cal, and defeated Alabama – handily – in a BCS bowl game. Ouch to the Big East. Not a good recent record for the conference to make a stand.

But, it can’t all be about 2008… though it’s hard to deny that the Big East is not just following a trend.

Some history. How has the Big East done through the history of the BCS (read: quality non-conference games). Here’s the list since the inception of the BCS in 1998:

  • 1998 Conference Champ: Syracuse (8-3) loses to Florida 31-10 in the Orange Bowl. 0-1
  • 1999 Conference Champ: Virginia Tech (now ACC) (11-0) loses to Florida State 46-29 in the Fiesta Bowl. 0-2
  • 2000 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (10-1) beats Florida 37-20 in the Sugar Bowl. 1-2
  • 2001 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (11-0) beat Nebraska 37-14 in the Rose Bowl. 2-2
  • 2002 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (12-0) loses to Ohio State 31-24 in the Fiesta Bowl. 2-3
  • 2003 Conference Champ: Miami (now ACC) (10-2) beats Florida State 16-14 in the Orange Bowl. 3-3
  • 2004 Conference Champ: Pittsburgh (8-3) loses to Utah 35-7 in the Fiesta Bowl. 3-4
  • 2005 Conference Champ: West Virginia (10-1) beat Georgia 38-35 in the Sugar Bowl. 4-4
  • 2006 Conference Champ: Louisville (11-1) beats Wake Forest 24-13 in the Orange Bowl. 5-4
  • 2007 Conference Champ: West Virginia (10-2) beats Oklahoma 48-28 in the Fiesta Bowl. 6-4
  • 2008 Conference Champ: Cincinnati (11-3) loses to Virginia Tech 20-7 in the Orange Bowl. 6-5

One national championship is pretty good. But, the Big East has never – NEVER – received an at-large BCS bid for one of their teams. To contrast, the Big 10 (seven), SEC (five), Big 12 (four), Independent (three), Pac-10 (two), WAC (two), and Mountain West (two) have all received them. The only other conference with an at-large goose egg is the ACC.

And the overall 6-5 historical record is average, and far below average when considering that three of those wins (including the championship) belong to a program that is no longer in the conference.

The resume is unimpressive from the Big East, both recent history and a deeper dive into the BCS. Is it enough to jettison the conference from the ranks of the BCS automatic qualifiers? Yes. So I must award the victory to…

LOYAL HOMER!!!!!

While Bleacher Fan offered many, many excuses for the Big East, Loyal Homer had one valid point that stood out: Attendance figures are dwindling for Big East football programs. Though a small but steady slide is apparent, recent performances, combined with a poor history against the best competition in college football, has not won fans back. Attendance is important because it translates to the strength –and willingness to travel – in the diehard fan base. Additionally, losing the heart and soul of Big East football tradition to the ACC has completely reversed expectations for Big East football. When Connecticut does well (starting last season 5-0) the collective national voice is “surprised.” There is no team that is expected to dominate year in and year out – a respect requisite in college football.

When the BCS charter expires in 2014, the committee must take a long look at whether the Big East belongs among the ranks of the automatic bids. According to the arguments presented here, they don’t.


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