The 2010 NFL Player on the Hot Seat Debate… It’s Sink or Swim Time for Leinart

June 14, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Babe Ruthless and Bleacher Fan.

After a couple of World Cup debates last week, we’re switching gears and will slowly start to focus on American football. After all, it won’t be long before football season arrives. Regular season action starts in less than three months, with training camp about six weeks away. With that in mind, we’re looking at NFL players who are on the hot seat for the 2010 season.

Without a doubt, the hottest seat for any player belongs to Matt Leinart.

Leinart, who had no ties to any rent-free house while at Southern Cal, obviously came into the league with great fanfare. But, let’s face it. Up to this point in his career, he has been a bust. He’s thrown more interceptions than touchdowns. Not long after being handed the keys to the franchise, he had them taken from him by possible future Hall of Famer Kurt Warner. All Warner did was throw for 70 touchdowns the past three seasons and took the Cardinals to Super Bowl XLIII, a game the team would have won if not for a sensational catch by Santanio Holmes.

Now, Warner has retired and Leinart once again has the keys to the franchise. How is he going to do this time?

One thing is certain. Arizona has overcome the losing stigma that has been attached to the franchise for years. Two consecutive NFC West titles took care of that. It’s also important to note that it’s a different team than the one that took the field the past two seasons. Among other things, Pro Bowl wide receiver Anquan Boldin is no longer with the team, as he was traded to Baltimore this offseason after an extended contract dispute. That leads many to believe that Leinart could be in control of a more balanced offense than in years past. Beanie Wells is coming off a solid rookie season in 2009, and with coach Ken Whisenhunt’s background often showcasing a strong running game, it’s safe to assume that Wells and Tim Hightower may have an increased role in the offense.

To his credit, Leinart is putting in his time. Whisenhunt is reporting that Leinart has often showed at team facilities as early as 6:30a. He’s putting in the time studying the playbook, and is putting in hours with individual workouts with his receivers. Apparently he’s spending more time in the film room than the hot tub, which is what the old Leinart used to do. He has more responsibility now, and that leads to more pressure.

It’s definitely sink or swim time for Leinart. But, there isn’t much water in the desert. So, maybe it’s now or never time. This is quite possibly his last chance to show all of us that he is good enough to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. Matt, it’s your time to write your own script.

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The Starting the Back Up Quarterback Debate – Leinart Is Ready To Leave the Nest

November 25, 2009

Read the arguments from Bleacher Fan and Loyal Homer about which NFL backup quarterback SHOULD be starting for their team right now.



Matt Leinart should be starting at quarterback in the NFL this season… at least, somewhere. Since Leinart was drafted as the tenth overall pick by the Arizona Cardinals in 2006, a series of unfortunate events (i.e. a broken collarbone, a horrendous preseason, Paris Hilton) derailed Leinart from the fast track to superstardom. Now, during just his fourth season in the NFL, he finds himself blocked on the depth charts by a surprisingly resurgent fossil – I mean, quarterback – Kurt Warner. Leinart deserves a shot at a starting gig, if not in Arizona then somewhere.

Leinart has demonstrated immense talent. His college accolades are a testament to that, but he also has NFL experience. Leinart displayed flashes of brilliance his first season in the league throwing for 11 touchdowns and rushing for two more. In just 11 starts during the 2006 season, Leinart amassed 2,547 passing yards proving that he is more than capable of starting in the NFL, but he has not been given the opportunity to develop further. Leinart’s critics will point to his 12 interceptions that season and claim it was a sign of problems to come. Those critics should remember that a young Peyton Manning threw 26 touchdowns and a league leading 28 interception across four more starts than Leinart during his first season, and he turned out okay.

Serviceable quarterbacks are in high demand in the NFL in 2009. Numerous teams are looking to resolve QB questions in the upcoming 2010 draft, but Leinart serves as a unique and much better alternative. Leinart provides experience and affordability. The top two quarterbacks in last year’s draft received massive contracts, including $41.7 million (Matthew Stafford) and $28 million (Mark Sanchez) in guaranteed money. Leinart is currently in the fourth year of his six year deal, and his salary breaks down to an average around $6.75 million a year. His contract allows the team that acquires him a relatively cheap test drive. If they like him, they could sign him long term. If they find him a poor fit then they could part ways following the 2011 season. That is like offering a guy on a moped a $25 a month lease on a sports car. Who could turn that down?

You may be thinking, “Babe Ruthless, you are CRAZY! There is no way the Cardinals could afford to let Leinart go because Kurt Warner is way too old.” Let me assure you that I am crazy… crazy like a fox. You see, trading Matt Leinart is the right deal for both Leinart and the Cardinals. Warner has some gas left in the tank and many think he will remain the starter for the next two seasons. This creates a situation for Leinart not unlike what Aaron Rodgers faced just two seasons ago. Rodgers was blocked from the role of starter by living legend, Brett Farve, but the Packers waited till it was too late to make the most of both quarterbacks value. I suggest that the Cardinals strike while the iron is hot and trade Leinart for players that can make a difference now. The Cardinals could trade Leinart to a team in need of a new quarterback and get an upgrade that pays immediate dividends. I would bet that the Bills, Panthers, and more teams could find suitable trades that would benefit both teams. The Cardinals could get a trade that brings in a game-changing pass rusher like Julius Peppers or Aaron Schobel. Such a trade could bring the missing piece of the puzzle the Cardinals need to return to and win the Super Bowl, and allow Leinart to prove he has what it takes to lead a team.

Leinart must start somewhere, and soon. He is capable and ready to shine. If the Cardinals are not ready to give him the reigns, then the team should use him as trade bait to improve a team that is bordering on the cusp of greatness.

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The Leaving College Early For The Pros Debate – An Education Provides Real Value

November 12, 2009

Read the debate intro and Sports Geek’s argument that capable college athletes should forgo their education for a career in the professional leagues.



I know the popular answer is going to be “Take the money and run.” The four writers here at TSD have never been in a situation like those that star college football players face after being in college for three years. We do not know what we would do. And believe me, my heart breaks for guys like Sam Bradford. He really seems to be one of the good guys and I hate that his season has been essentially ruined by injury. He bypassed millions of dollars to come back to try and win a championship in Norman. But LONG TERM, the best thing for the individual is to return to school.

According to the National Football Players Association’s website, the average career length of an NFL player lasts around three and a half years. Basically, that means for every Clay Matthews (19 years), there is a Mr. Irrelevant. If a player leaves school early and the NFL career does not work out, what does he have to fall back on? Even if the player does have a lengthy career, what is he going to do once he retires without a degree? Sure, he could go back to school to finish his degree. Many say they intend to do that. You may say, “Well, he’s wealthy and he doesn’t need to work.” But retired NFL players do not work for the money. They work to stay active. We have all heard our parents preach this and we will preach it to our kids when they get to that age – it is very important to get that degree!

Bleacher Fan mentioned Mike Doss in the intro. Another guy that comes to mind is Matt Leinart. Leinart came back to Southern Cal as a fifth year senior. He wanted the chance to make college football history by winning a third consecutive national championship. He gave up millions for, as he called it, “$950 a month” and a chance to win another championship. It did not quite turn out that way for Leinart, as his Trojans lost in the BCS championship game to Texas in one of the greatest games I have ever had the pleasure of watching. Financially, however, the money was still there when he was drafted the following year by the Arizona Cardinals with the tenth overall pick. Sure, he was not the first overall pick, but he still signed a six-year deal worth a maximum value of $50.8 million, including $14 million guaranteed. I will grant you that he has not exactly panned out yet in the NFL, but at least he is getting a fat check. And, he always has that degree. He will not have to go bagging groceries after his career is over!

What is wrong with being the big man on campus? A senior star college football player probably never has to buy a drink at the local bar. He probably is one of the most popular guys on campus. He probably has all the girls wanting to go out with him (which is a good thing only if he does not have a girlfriend). How many times does one get to experience that in a lifetime? Responsibility and life can wait! Why not enjoy the senior year of college? It only comes along once!

Yes, it is hard to turn down the millions! But it is impossible to put a price tag on what can be experienced as a senior in college. And, you cannot put a price tag on that diploma!

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The Best Team Not To Win It All Debate, College Football Edition – Dominance Did Not Dominate For One Day

September 1, 2009

Read Bleacher Fan’s argument that the 2006 Ohio State Buckeyes were the best team not to win a championship this decade. Read Sports Geek’s argument that the 2004 Auburn Tigers were the best team not to win a championship this decade.



Winning means everything, right? The realistic goal for most teams in college football is to win enough games to reach one of the numerous bowl games on the docket. However, for some teams, the ultimate goal for the season is to not only win the conference, but also compete in and win the BCS national championship game. One team that did not reach the top of the mountain this decade was the 2005 USC Trojans.

The Trojans came into the 2005 season absolutely loaded. They returned reigning Heisman trophy winner and quarterback Matt Leinart along with running back Reggie Bush, who would win the Heisman trophy at the end of 2005. The Trojans won the national title the previous season, and they returned 14 starters from the 2004 team including running back LenDale White, wide receivers Dwayne Jarrett and Steve Smith, and linebacker Darnell Bing. They came into the season on a 22 game winning streak. It should also be noted that while they had no impact on the team that year, the recruiting class for that season featured future NFL draft picks quarterback Mark Sanchez, and linebackers Brian Cushing and Ray Maualuga.

The coaching staff, in addition to head coach Pete Carroll, featured future college football head coaches in current Tennessee Volunteers head coach Lane Kiffin and current Washington Huskies head coach Steve Sarkisian.

Southern Cal totally dominated the regular season. Before playing Texas in the national championship game, there was talk that USC belonged in the discussion of the greatest college football teams of all time. Why wouldn’t they be? USC won nine games by at least 17 points. They scored over 50 points an eye-popping seven times during the regular season.

The 2006 Rose Bowl promised to be one of the best college football games we would ever see. The Texas Longhorns had a fine season in their own right. Led by Heisman trophy runner-up and quarterback Vince Young, the Longhorns had run through their schedule with relative ease as they also scored over 50 points on seven different occasions. That included an absolute 70-3 annihilation of Colorado in the Big 12 championship game.

Most pundits, though taking nothing away from Texas, expected the Trojans to cap off an undefeated season with a victory over the ‘Horns. But Young had other plans, essentially putting his team on his back and willing them to a 41-38 victory. He accounted for 467 total yards in the game. I vividly remember watching the game in my living room with buddies and thinking during the game that we were watching something special. As a fan of high scoring games, it is, without a doubt, the best college football game I have ever watched.

Looking back, I still am not sure how that USC team lost. It was loaded. So many stars on one team. They just happened to play against Texas when Young had the game of his life. It seems impossible to not name the 2005 USC Trojans as the greatest college football team of the decade not to win a title.

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The Definition of Great Debate, College Football Edition – Turn On the Swag

July 9, 2009

Read Bleacher Fan’s argument that professional success defines college team greatness and Sport Geek’s argument that great is determined by statistical dominance.



First off, thanks to our friends at the Orlando Sentinel for indirectly giving us the idea to debate the definition of greatness for a college football team. Andrea Adelson wrote an article about the 2001 Miami Hurricanes defining them as the Team of the Decade. That got The Sports Debates thinking (I know what you’re thinking… here we go again). What defines the greatness of a college football team?

I really struggled with this topic. I knew immediately that I wasn’t going to argue that greatness is defined solely by the number of NFL players on the team. There are so many variables that go into that, so I could not really agree with arguing that. I think the two-headed monster of Chris Leak and Tim Tebow at quarterback for the 2006 Florida Gators was the key to that team winning the championship. But, Leak is not in the NFL (he actually plays in the Canadian Football League), and who knows what the future holds for Mr. Tebow.

I believe that the greatness of a team is defined by the attitude/swagger it shows while performing on the field. The great teams already have a big advantage over their opponents because they can intimidate them. To borrow a phrase from Bleacher Fan, “It is not what you win, but how you win it, that qualifies you for greatness!” Perhaps that quote defines greatness in college football. It apparently defines it in tennis! Maybe these “great” football teams are hard hitting and extra physical. Maybe they are explosive. Their dominance is evident when they walk on the field – while they walk on the field. Let’s take a look at some national championship teams over the past 20 years.

The 2001 Miami Hurricanes, which Ms. Adelson discussed in her article, were great. Why were they great? They had swagger. The “U” had an aura. Sure, they had nice guys on their team like Ken Dorsey, but they also had strong figures on the team like Jeremy Shockey, Jonathan Vilma, Ed Reed, and Phillip Buchanan. That was a dominant team with strong personalities on both sides of the ball.

The 2004 USC Trojans had swagger also, but in a different way. They were so explosive that they could make another team believe they had a two touchdown deficit before they even walked on the field. Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, and then-freshman Dwayne Jarrett, led the quick strike offense. The Trojans were always a serious threat to score from anywhere on the field. Looking back, the 55-19 dismantling of the Jason White-Adrian Peterson Oklahoma team in the Orange Bowl helped build this team’s reputation.

Perhaps the most impressive team Loyal Homer saw growing up was the 1995 Nebraska Cornhuskers. I recall them steamrolling everyone they played, including an 62-24 thrashing of the Florida Gators in the championship game. Tommy Frazier was the driving force behind this team with Tom Osborne’s powerful option-rushing attack. Remember Frazier? I sure do. I bet Sports Geek and Bleacher Fan do as well. This team was dominant. They averaged over 53 points and 400 yards rushing per game. They beat four teams who finished ranked in the top ten that year by an average score of 49-18. Wow! Their smallest margin of victory all year was a 14 point victory over Washington State. That team definitely had swagger!

These are three championship winning teams I remember vividly from the last 20 years. And looking at all three, I remember them because they had the “IT” factor. These three teams defined their greatness with their swagger! They turned their swag on!


The Definition of Great Debate, College Football Edition – Made From the Best Stuff on Earth

July 9, 2009

Read Loyal Homer’s argument that swagger defines great and Sports Geek’s argument that statistical dominance defines great.



Recently, our friend Andrea Adelson at the Orlando Sentinel posed a question to her readers: Which college football team in the last nine years would currently ranks as the “Team of the Decade?”

There have been some outstanding teams over the past nine years, including the 2005 Texas Longhorns, the 2002 Ohio State Buckeyes, the 2004 USC Trojans, and Adelson’s pick, the 2001 Miami Hurricanes.

During our production meeting last week we here at TSD discussed the merits of her list, and out of that discussion came an interesting debate topic for us…

What is the best criteria by which to measure the success of a college football team?

Sports Geek will argue that statistical dominance is the key (big surprise), and Loyal Homer will argue that swagger and attitude are what separates the men from the boys.

For me the answer is much simpler than stats or attitude. It all boils down to talent and success of the players at the next level, the NFL.

Keep in mind, we’re not debating what it takes to be a good college player, we are talking about choosing the “BEST” team, and just like gourmet meals are made from the best ingredients, the best team is made up of the best players.

Statistics and swagger are good, but they are merely by-products of talent, and they don’t always tell a true story. For example, the 2004 National Champion USC Trojans didn’t even crack the top-10 in total offense. You know who did? The Toledo Rockets and the Bowling Green Falcons, both out of the Mid-American Conference. Does that mean that the MAC actually had two schools that were better than USC that year? I don’t think so.

As another example, who was the best running back from the class of 2005? I bet you said Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush, didn’t you? (That’s okay, so did I.) But, he wasn’t statistically the top rusher of the year. He was actually third behind DeAngelo Williams of Memphis and Jerome Harrison of Washington State.

Surely, then, he was at least the top scorer of 2005, right?! Wrong again. In this little statistic, he doesn’t show up until eighth on the list. In fact, he wasn’t even the top scoring running back for his own school! That title actually belonged to LenDale White.

My point here is that statistics can be misleading, or that quality is more important than quantity. What is not misleading is the ability for a player (or a group of players) to consistently do what needs to be done in order to remain competitive for extended periods of time, at ANY level of competition.

Think about the teams I mentioned above as some of the best from the past decade. What made them all great was the fact that they were populated by the best players of that time. The 2001 Hurricanes had Ed Reed, Jeremy Shockey, Andre Johnson, Clinton Portis, and Kellen Winslow Jr. The 2002 Buckeyes had Maurice Clarett (ahh, what could have been), A.J. Hawk, Michael Jenkins, Chris Gamble, Mike Doss, and Will Smith. The 2004 Trojans had Matt Leinart, Reggie Bush, Lofa Tatupu, LenDale White, and Eric Wright. The 2005 Longhorns had Vince Young, Selvin Young, Limas Sweed, Brian Orakpo, and Justin Blalock.

These players dominated in college, and (with the exception of Clarett) moved on to successful NFL careers as well, and those names only make up a fraction of the total number of NFL caliber players who contributed to the success of those respective teams. In fact, as Adelson point, the ’01 Hurricanes actually sent 38 players from the roster to the NFL, including 17 first-round picks! It’s no accident that this team became National Champions.

It isn’t about blowing out an opponent by 50 points, dominating total passing yardage, or having the flashiest plays. The one common thread that each of these teams shared is TALENT. They had the best players in the right positions to make the plays needed to win.

Think about the Texas vs. Ohio State game of 2005. In that game, The Ohio State Buckeyes were driving late in the game and were ready to go ahead by 10 points. Unfortunately for the Buckeye faithful, Tight End Ryan Hamby (who?) ended up dropping a sure touchdown pass from Quarterback Justin Zwick (who?) in the endzone, and the Buckeyes had to settle for a field goal, giving them only a six point lead.

In response, the Longhorns (led by the superior talent named above) were able to march down the field and take the lead from Ohio State with only 2 minutes left in the game, thanks to a TD pass from Vince Young to Limas Sweed. That touchdown ended up being the difference maker as the Longhorns would close out that game and go on to defeat the USC Trojans in the National Championship game later that year.

What made the difference? The Longhorn talent was able to execute under pressure where the Buckeye players could not. Texas didn’t dominate the game statistically, they just did enough to win the game, and at the end of the day, that’s ALL that matters.

The best teams are the ones that are made up of the best players… end of debate!


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