The Dan Gilbert Tirade Debate Verdict

July 15, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

As a sports fan, if you didn’t recognize the name Dan Gilbert a week ago, then you certainly do now. I knew who he was, and knew he owned the Cleveland Cavaliers. But until a few days ago I didn’t know he was the owner of Fathead, and that he is sometimes generous enough to offer Fatheads for as low as $17.41! The main focus of this debate, however, revolves around the letter Gilbert posted for his fans regarding LeBron James’ departure, and whether or not the letter was good for his investment in the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Bleacher Fan, being an avid Cavs fan for his entire life, was pleased with Cavs letter. In fact, he fired off an email to Babe Ruthless, Sports Geek, and me the minute he read the letter. Bleacher Fan loved it, and that’s pretty clear when reading his argument. The point was made that Dan Gilbert ultimately has to answer to the fans of the Cleveland Cavaliers, and it’s his job as owner to please those fans. It was an absolutely devastating turn of events for the city of Cleveland. That was obvious by watching footage of the jersey burning of the old #23 Cavs jerseys, and by all of the security that was placed throughout the streets of the city. He scored major kudos with Cavs nation, as evident by the fact that many Cavs fans have offered to help Gilbert pay the $100,000 fine assessed to him by NBA commissioner David Stern.

In contrast, Babe Ruthless writes that Gilbert’s letter gives Cleveland fans unrealistic expectations. In the letter he promised that Cleveland would win a championship before LeBron would, and I think all of us can agree that may be a little farfetched. The letter, according to Babe, is a “cowardly attempt to focus the blame on someone else.” Babe Ruthless does write that Jesse Jackson’s comments have no bearing whatsoever, and that they border on lunacy. That’s something I definitely agree with, as I have doubts as to how much this “friend and ally” of the NBA actually follows the NBA with all the other people he advises. Shouldn’t he be advising Michael Vick to have toy guns at his birthday party instead of real guns?

Here’s the deal. This is something Dan Gilbert had to do, and that’s why I am rewarding the victory to Bleacher Fan.

Even if the letter is nothing more than a Band-Aid on the situation, it is a Band-Aid that had to be placed on the wound. Around 9:30p last Thursday night fans were devastated, even as word had leaked out earlier in the day that James was likely “taking his talents to South Beach.” Words like “betrayal” and “Benedict Arnold” and “traitor” were just some of the clean words used to describe the situation by fans. They needed something positive to go to bed with that night. Dan Gilbert gave them that. As owner, obviously, he wants to turn a profit and that’s going to be a lot tougher without the former hometown hero. But he’s no idiot. He didn’t become a multi-millionaire by being passive with his investments. He wants to protect his investment. He needs the support of Cleveland. He got that support by saying what every Cavs fan wanted to hear, and was probably thinking. He certainly didn’t steal LeBron’s “glory’ that night, but he became a big part of the story. He has brought hope, at least temporarily, to the franchise. For right now, that is enough to build on.

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The Dan Gilbert Tirade Debate

July 14, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

Here we are, days after Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert wrote an open letter to Cavs fans, and it’s still making news. It’s just too good to pass up, so we’ve decided to address it.

Yesterday, NBA commissioner David Stern fined Gilbert $100,000 for his “inappropriate” comments in the letter. Jesse Jackson, who apparently is a “friend and ally” of the league, called Gilbert’s feelings a “betrayal [that] personifies a slave master mentality.”

There are some high profile names coming out against Gilbert. But Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless also are high profile names (in TSD circles), and they are going to debate the issue today. Please look at the question closely.

Was it a good thing for his investment for Dan Gilbert to send the anger-filled message to the fans of the Cleveland Cavaliers?

Bleacher Fan will argue that he has no problem with the move and that it was the right thing to do as an owner. Babe Ruthless will argue that this was not a smart move by Gilbert.

Fire away! I promise I won’t fine anyone $100,000 for anything you say in this debate!

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The Limbaugh Edition Celebrity Ownership Debate – Don’t Be So Quick To Dismiss

October 15, 2009

Read the debate intro and Sports Geek’s argument that Rush Limbaugh would not be a good addition to the NFL as an owner.

The mere thought of Rush Limbaugh becoming a part owner of the St. Louis Rams sent shock waves throughout the country. It seems that everyone has an opinion on it. Other owners have an opinion. Other players have an opinion. NFL Commisioner Roger Goodell has an opinion. Our friends from the NAACP, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, have an opinion (and we know they always do). We all know what OPINION is on all of this. Quite frankly, I am disappointed it has gotten all of this attention.

First Limbaugh has been dropped by the group that is interested in purchasing the Rams, as Bleacher Fan stated in the intro. However, should Rush ever express any interest in becoming part of another group to purchase the Rams or any other team, I, as a fan of the NFL… and even if I was a die-hard fan of that particular team, would not be opposed to it.

I am not condoning any of Rush’s past comments about Donavan McNabb, the NBA, or anything else controversial he has stated. I am not saying I believe everything Rush says, either. I really cannot say either way because I am not an avid Rush Limbaugh listener. None of that matters in this situation, though. Who cares if he is a conservative? It has absolutely nothing to do with him being an owner. His political views would in no way impact whether or not he thinks his team should sign a player. Love him or hate him, Rush has built himself a rather large radio empire, and he did not do that by making unsound business decisions.

I know he has officially been dropped from the group interested in the Rams, but in case you have not noticed, the St. Louis Rams need a change. They need some spice. They need something to draw attention. As I stated in a previous debate, the Rams are not your older brother’s Rams. They are no longer “The Greatest Show on Turf.” In fact, you can make a legitimate argument that are one of – if not THE – worst team in the league. Gone are the days of Warner, Fault, Bruce, and Holt. Why not bring in someone like Rush to charge up the franchise?

I find it funny that people think he was going to be the SOLE owner. He was not. He was not going to be a Jerry Jones or a Daniel Snyder type. He was a part of a group. He was not even going to be a MAJORITY owner. He was going to own only a portion. How much was never specified, but it is reasonable to assume it was not a very big amount. It is just like the situation with the Dolphins, where Marc Anthony, Gloria Estefan, Venus Williams, and Serena Williams own a portion of the team. They are not making day-to-day decisions. Their stakes are not enough to earn that right. I think it is safe to say they have  given the organization a lift, and the value of the franchise will rise because of it.

It looks as if it will not work out with the Rams. But, if Rush shows interest in being a part of another group to purchase another team, then why not? Let him go for it!!! As long as he has the capital to invest, I see absolutely no problem with it.

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