The Firing Jeff Fisher Debate Verdict

February 8, 2011

Read the opposing arguments from Sports Geek and Optimist Prime.

Just when we thought the annual NFL coaching carousel was finished, the Tennessee Titans threw us all for a loop when the organization announced the sudden departure of long time head coach Jeff Fisher. I’ve always been someone who has been in Jeff Fisher’s corner. He comes across as a hard nosed guy, having served under the likes of Mike Ditka and Buddy Ryan – two hard nosed guys themselves. He also comes across as a nice guy, which, judging by the full-page ad he placed in the Nashville Tennesean, he apparently is. But, enough of that emotional stuff. Save that for Valentine’s Day next Monday. Did the guy deserve to get the heave ho?

We can all agree that the timing of this move was dreadful… even Al Davis made a move before the Titans did. What Jeff Fisher did in between the end of the regular season in early January and his dismissal in late January to cause his ouster is beyond me. Nonetheless, we’ll be seeing him on a T.V. network in all likelihood this fall, provided there is a season.

Sports Geek felt that Fisher went wrong by giving owner Bud Adams too much say so. (For those of you who are unfamiliar with Mr. Adams, feel free to take a peek at this clip… makes me laugh every time!) Adams is the guy who essentially gave the keys to the car to Vince Young. Unfortunately, it was Jeff Fisher’s car before Young got there. Fisher and Steve McNair nearly won a Super Bowl in that car, and that caused friction right off the bat between the two. Fisher lost his authority and therefore was possibly undermined in the locker room.

Optimist Prime places a lot of the blame on the organization’s handling of the Vince Young saga. Adams continuously said that Young was his guy, and his persistence lead to a lot of uncertainty regarding Fisher’s future. The firing also brings an uncertain future as it has been a long time since a guy not named Jeff Fisher has been roaming the sidelines in Nashville. Besides, as Prime points out, the Titans did post double digit wins in 2007 and 2008.

Here’s where I decided to go with this verdict. Optimist Prime states in his argument that, “… the whole Young/Fisher saga makes me wonder what kind of organizational leadership the Titans have these days.” Hmm… isn’t Jeff Fisher part of that organizational leadership? He is the head coach after all. It is ultimately his responsibility to get those 53 guys ready to play for 16 games every season.

Unfortunately, something had to give. Adams has decided to move on from both Young AND Fisher, and it’s the right move. Besides, for all the hoopla surrounding Fisher, look at his overall record as a head coach. It’s not like we’re talking about Vince Lombardi. He’s 146-120, made it to ONE Super Bowl (and lost), made it to the post-season six times in 17 seasons, and hasn’t won a playoff game since 2003! Someone besides fantasy football owners need to take advantage of having Chris Johnson on a team.

Maybe Tennessee takes a step back this year with new coach Mike Munchak. But perhaps he will also provide some stability. This year, at least, you really could see Fisher lost that team, and it was obvious a change was necessary.

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The Firing Jeff Fisher Debate

February 7, 2011

Read the opposing arguments from Sports Geek and Optimist Prime.

Perhaps somewhat lost amongst all the Super Bowl build up and hoopla was the departure of Jeff Fisher from the Tennessee Titans. We were long led to believe that either quarterback Vince Young or Fisher had to leave Music City, and when it was announced that the Titans were moving on from the Young era, it was widely assumed that Fisher had won the tug of war inside Titans camp. Young and Fisher had never seemed to be on the same page, but now they are, because that page is headed out of town. The change at the top has left the Titans organization scrambling to find a suitable replacement for Fisher.

The news of Fisher’s departure was definitely surprising considering the timing. Obviously, it got the staff here at The Sports Debates wondering if the move was a mistake. Should Tennessee have fired Jeff Fisher?

Sports Geek feels that the Titans made the correct move by moving on from the Jeff Fisher era while Optimist Prime feels like the Titans made a mistake by parting ways with such a long tenured and well respected coach.

In the words of last night’s Super Bowl halftime entertainment performers Black Eyed Peas, ”Let’s get it started in here.”

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The Firing Jeff Fisher Debate… A Captain-less Ship

February 7, 2011

Read the opposing argument from Sports Geek.

Many football fans were surprised by the Tennessee Titans’ sudden dismissal of head coach Jeff Fisher. His dismissal came after the generally accepted “silly season” of coaching staff turnover and led many to question not only the timing of the decision, but the thinking behind the decision as well. I was definitely one of those people, and I’ve happily accepted my assignment to throw a few more logs on that fire. I do not believe the Titans should have fired Jeff Fisher.

I accept the Titans definitely do not fall into the category of being one of those teams that grew impatient with a coach and jettisoned him too early. Fisher was the coach of the Titans for 17 years, so it’s definitely hard to make the argument that the organization just didn’t give him enough time. Beyond that, what made the decision even stranger was the obvious affinity that the Titans organization has for Fisher. If you see any of the media availabilities surrounding his firing, all involved (even Fisher himself) seemed to act exactly the opposite of the way you would expect surrounding a firing.

That all throws the firing into question, I believe. There are two arguments that the Titans should have hung onto Fisher. First, I think it’s very difficult to make an argument that the Titans were slipping into oblivion as a football team. While the 2010 season record was a disappointing 6-10, two of the previous three seasons saw the Titans register double digit wins. Based on those statistics (and Fisher’s over .500 winning percentage as a head coach), it’s very difficult to say the team and the organization was headed in a negative direction.

The second argument for why the Titans should not have fired Fisher rests on the organization’s handling of the Vince Young soap opera during the 2010 season. There were many conflicting statements from ownership and organizational leadership regarding how the Titans were going to handle Vince Young after his antics began to affect the team. That all came to a head in a game on November 21 when Young apparently threw his shoulder pads into the stands and stormed out on his team after telling off Fisher. Bud Adams, the 88-year-old Titans owner, made statements after that saying the team intended to hang onto Vince Young, seemingly leaving Fisher dangling in the wind. It seemed obvious to outside observers that Fisher and Young would not be able to co-exist. The organization continued to contend that both would stay. However, there were soon very loud whispers that the Titans were attempting to trade Vince Young, and those loud whispers were eventually followed by the Titans’ surprising announcement that Jeff Fisher had been fired.

That whole Young/Fisher saga makes me wonder what kind of organizational leadership the Titans have these days. Given their aged owner and somewhat schizophrenic public statements, don’t you think they would have benefitted from having a steady hand on the tiller during this time of change? They’ll obviously have a changeover at quarterback, and the team’s public statements do not give fans a sense that a steady hand is on the tiller anywhere in the organization. The organization should not have escorted their one symbol of stability out the door.

However, this situation will end up benefitting Fisher in the end. He’ll be long gone when the Titans struggle through a change at quarterback and coaching staff upheaval, with his well-regarded reputation intact. Do I think this was a positive move for Jeff Fisher’s career? I do. However, it was one of the worst things the Tennessee Titans could have done this off-season.

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The Football Feast Winner Debate – Could it be Another Music City Miracle?!

November 30, 2009

Read the arguments from Loyal Homer and Sports Geek about which teams or conferences won the Thanksgiving football feast over the long weekend.



It has been a tale of two seasons for the Tennessee Titans in 2009. After losing the first six games of the 2009 campaign, the Titans are going to need all the help they can get for any chance, no matter how slim it may be, of reaching the postseason.

Drastic times call for drastic measures, and starting a season at 0-6 (especially after finishing the prior season with the NFL’s best record) certainly qualifies as a drastic time. The downward spiral in Nashville culminated in week six of the season, during which the winless Titans gave up a record-setting FIVE touchdown passes to Tom Brady and the New England Patriots during one quarter, all on the way to a 59-0 drubbing at the hands of the Patriots. Mercifully, the Titans followed that game with a bye week where extra time was taken to evaluate and retool the game plan. As part of the retooling, Titans head coach Jeff Fisher announced the decision to start Vince Young over 2008 Pro Bowler Kerry Collins at the quarterback position.

Since Young’s return to the starting role the Titans have found new life. Thanks to a combination of Young’s revitalized play and some MONSTER performances turned in by running back Chris Johnson, the NFL’s leading rusher, Tennessee won each of the last four games leading up to yesterday and were at least in the discussion as long shots for one of the AFC Wild Card spots.

Considering only one team in history has ever reached the playoffs after losing the first four games of the season (the 1992 San Diego Chargers), and NO team has ever reached the postseason after starting the season at 0-5 (let alone 0-6), the simple fact that the Titans were even getting mentioned for the playoffs before Sunday’s game was a major victory, although the team was nowhere near out of the woods yet. The margin for error in Nashville is virtually gone. The Titans need to finish the season in near perfect fashion to remain in contention, and even that may not even be enough. In order to successfully finish an improbable postseason run, the Titans also require a great deal of assistance from many other teams currently in the hunt.

This weekend, the Titans received a lot of that help!

The team once again helped its own cause thanks to OUTSTANDING contributions by Vince Young and Chris Johnson. Johnson dominated on the ground as he tied an NFL record with his sixth straight 125 plus yard game on the ground, including an 85-yard touchdown scamper in the third quarter of the game. But, it was Young who would become the hero. With less than three minutes remaining in the game, Young orchestrated a 99-yard drive down the field to lead the Titans to a stunning 20-17 victory over the Arizona Cardinals.

Elsewhere in the AFC, many other teams seemed more than willing to lend assistance to the Titans’ cause. Entering yesterday’s matchups, the Titans trailed the Pittsburgh Steelers (6-4), Jacksonville Jaguars (6-4), Denver Broncos (6-4), Baltimore Ravens (5-5), Miami Dolphins (5-5), and the Houston Texans (5-5) in contention for the two AFC Wild Card seeds. Of those six teams, only the Broncos and Ravens managed to win, allowing the Titans to draw within one game of the current Wild Card leaders for the 2009 Playoff Race.

Although the Titans face the biggest test of the “new” season this week against Peyton Manning and the 11-0 Indianapolis Colts, right now they are one of the most dangerous teams in the NFL thanks to new life behind Vince Young and Chris Johnson, who needs only to average 120.8 rushing yards per game to reach 2,000 total rushing yards for the season (with 1,396 rushing yards and a 126.9 yards per game average already this season, he is on target to reach 2030 by week 17), making him only the sixth person in NFL history to reach that mark. The Titans have rallied around their stars once more, and have completely turned the season around.

With nothing to lose and everything to gain, the Titans took advantage of every opportunity they were presented with this past weekend, and once again refused to concede the season.

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The Quick Hook Coach Debate – The Quick Trigger is Not The Answer

October 6, 2009

Read the debate intro and Bleacher Fan’s argument that firing a coach early in the season is warranted.



I am well aware of the fact that today’s society is a “what have you done for me lately” society. I realize that people want answers now, not tomorrow. I realize that fans like Bleacher Fan have suffered, and I sympathize with those frustrations. I am a diehard Atlanta Falcons fan, fully aware that the organization has never had back to back winning seasons. I do understand the need to go after a potential quick fix. But firing a coach early in the season is not the answer.

I have never been in favor of firing a coach during the middle of the season, whether middle is four games in, two months in, or with six games to go in the season. It rarely has an positive impact. For every success story like Jim Tracy being hired in May and leading the Rockies to the wild card, there are 100 stories that detail how midseason change is not the way to go. For example, since 1970 no NFL head coach hired in midseason has made it to the playoffs.

In the examples listed by Sports Geek in the intro, coaches like Jeff Fisher are established coaches who have had success in this league. There is no doubt the Tennessee Titans are off to an atrocious start, though they competed in three fairly close games before the disaster this past week against the Jaguars. But, does that warrant a firing? Not hardly.

How about those who are head coaches for the very first time? Raheem Morris (Tampa Bay), Todd Haley (Kansas City) and Steve Spagnuolo (St. Louis) all fall under this category. All three of these teams are in obvious rebuilding mode. The Bucs have had a lot of personnel turnover in the past couple of and admit the team is in rebuilding mode. (Loyal Homer still openly questions the firing of Jon Gruden, but that is a debate for another day.) Kansas City, which was a competitive team not so long ago, failed to win games the majority of the time under former coach Herman Edwards and are now rebuilding. The Rams, who not so long ago had the “Greatest Show on Turf” now has one of the worst shows on turf, having been outscored 63-0 by two division opponents so far this season (28-0 Seattle and 35-0 San Francisco). Those results spell rebuilding. What should be expected? Is it fair to expect these three guys to go 4-0 in their first four games? All three of them were established assistant coaches. It is not fair to judge them on their first four games. What if you were judged solely on your first four days on the job?

Plus, firing a coach at this point in the season, or at any point during the season, nullifies the previous months of work. Organized team activities, training camp, preseason, and the first four games of the season have gotten the team to this point. Does firing the coach really improve the team right now? What if a new coach with an entirely different system comes in and brings his playbook and his coaches? That arrangement basically tosses aside the last THREE quarters of the season. That is not the answer!

To reiterate, I do understand the frustration of the fans of those teams who are currently sitting winless. It is maddening! But there is hope. Give established guys like Fisher and John Fox a chance to do what they do best. They are proven winners. And, give the new guys a chance. They are still laying the groundwork on hopefully building a good team. It just requires a little patience.

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The NFL Fumbling the Playoffs Debate – We Won’t Remember These Titans

October 5, 2009

Read Sports Geek’s argument that the Carolina Panthers have blown their chance at the playoffs and Bleacher Fan’s argument that the Pittsburgh Steelers are in trouble.



Every NFL team starts the first of September with a clean slate. A record of 0-0. Many have hope of playing in January and it is a time of optimism for the players and the fans. The teams that made the playoffs the previous season hope to take it a step further (or repeat, if a team won the Super Bowl), while the teams that missed the playoffs hope to make it to postseason play. As the fourth week of the season winds down tonight in Minnesota, The Sports Debates is looking at teams that are behind the proverbial eight ball and have lost a realistic chance at making the playoffs. Yes, we know we are only a quarter of the way through the regular season, but the most surprising team to have basically ruined their playoff chances this early is the Tennessee Titans.

Last season the Titans finished 13-3 in the regular season and won the AFC South… before eventually losing to the Baltimore Ravens in the second round of the playoffs. The regular season record will not be duplicated, and with Sunday’s loss to Jacksonville (the team gave up 27 first half points to the Jacksonville Jaguars?), the Titans are an embarrassing 0-4. Guess what other teams are also 0-4? Terrible teams like the St. Louis Rams, the Cleveland Browns, the Kansas City Chiefs, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers! Heck, even the Oakland Raiders have one more win than the Titans! This is not what Jeff Fisher and Co. had in mind when the season started.

The offense has moved the ball fairly well. The offense is averaging close to 360-yards per game. Chris Johnson is having another solid year (and helping my fantasy team!). The Titans just are not getting the ball into the end zone. Averaging slightly less than 19 points a game to this point is good enough for 22nd in the league. That is not good enough for a team that had Super Bowl hopes coming into the season. It is also fair to question whether or not Kerry Collins is the man for the job at quarterback.

Where the team has really struggled is on defense. The Titans are giving up 282.2 yards per game passing, and an average of 27 points per game. How does a defense give up 323 yards to David Garrard? To me, that is a head scratcher. Does the defense really miss Albert Haynesworth that much? Does the defense really miss Jim Schwarz that much? Right now, it appears so!

And it is not going to get any easier for the Titans. One of the “perks” of winning a division is having a tough schedule the following the year. It is one of the many things the NFL does to create parity in the league. Look at the schedule and it is easy to understand the teams the Titans are playing in the next two week: the Indianapolis Colts (in an absolutely dreadful Sunday Night football game) and the New England Patriots. Ouch. I think 0-6 is a real possibility.

This is not what Titans fans and the city of Nashville had in mind. A record of 0-4 through the first four weeks was not even in the realm of possibility. With the Colts sitting on top of the division with a 4-0 record, it is going to be next to impossible to make the playoffs. There is no guarantee that 10 wins gets a team in the playoffs. And with the schedule strength shaking out like it is, I just do not see the Titans rebounding and playing playoff football this season.

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