The NFL Rookie Pay Scale Debate – A Pay Scale in the NFL is Un-American

August 12, 2009

Read the debate intro, Loyal Homer’s argument in favor of a rookie pay scale in the NFL and Bleacher Fan’s argument against it.



The NFL is very conscious of their image. Several factors lead an analytical person like me to this conclusion. One, the commissioner, Roger Goodell, cut his teeth in the NFL in the public relations part of the business. Two, the league seems to care a great deal about making a public show of punishment for the players who fall outside of their new conduct policy. Three, they enforce community service (hey, it is not always BAD to be image conscious). Four, the players are (well mostly receivers).

It is that general self-awareness the league touts that makes this issue of a rookie pay scale so bizarre. If the league cares so much about their perception, why would they have a backwards system of rewarding unproven players with massive contracts? It defies logic because the players are being rewarded for what they hope are “future truths” or “trust me” contracts. Considering the value of the contracts, that is no small act of faith on the part of the organization. That is why the general manager gets fired so much. They simply cannot afford to be wrong more than once.

As for the debate, good points are made on both sides. Loyal Homer is correct in his fan-driven head-scratching when considering the backwards logic of professional contracts to rookies. But, the basis of Loyal Homer’s argument is that the players who enter the draft are unproven. While it may be true that the players are unproven at the professional level, the gap between high-quality college football and low quality professional football is not that wide. In fact, that is probably why so many college players are not judged on their talents in the collegiate ranks but on their potential in the pros (though that is likely a debate for another day).

Despite the reluctance on the part of fans to accept a holdout and sign a rookie to a huge future truth contract, it is a practice that works for both the players and the teams. As Bleacher Fan points out, the teams do a good job of evaluating talent in general and assume the risk if they misread a player. If a draft pick is a bust that is a responsibility of the organization, not the player. The organization assumes the draft rights and the burden of signing a player. It is well within the realm of reason to let the market dictate the value of a player – proven or not. It is the same principle as free agency, only with inexperience players at the professional level. Instituting a pay scale for rookies is a double standard in the league, and a double standard that penalizes the veterans – something the league is not likely to do.

Though I am awarding the debate win to Bleacher Fan, I feel like there is a compromise here. Bleacher Fan makes a very thorough, researched point about the relative success of player evaluations and contract value for picks inside the top ten of the draft (they cannot all be good picks… the league still has the Bungals in it). As the talent dwindles with each passing pick on draft day, it makes sense for a pay scale to kick in at some point. Does the 20th player selected really need to hold out for a few extra dollars of guaranteed money? No. If a pay scale does ever come to fruition, limiting it to the players who fall outside of the top ten in the draft makes sense. Market forces can play out with the cream of the crop, but with the remaining players, heavily incentive-laden deals under a predetermined structure could make sense for players and organizations alike.

On the surface it sure seems like any rookie hold out situation sucks, especially from the fans perspective (the most important perspective, by the way). But it is a reflection of the American economic principles of fair market value and the guidance of the invisible hand, and it is what is best for talented players and risk-taking teams.

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The NFL Rookie Pay Scale Debate – Does the NFL Need to Regulate Rookie Salaries?

August 11, 2009

Read Loyal Homer’s argument in favor of a rookie pay scale in the NFL and Bleacher Fan’s argument against it.



San Francisco 49ers first round draft pick, wide receiver Michael Crabtree, is making quite a fuss. Crabtree, drafted tenth overall in the 2009 NFL Draft, is seeking a rookie contract worth more than $23.5M in guaranteed money. When the Oakland Raiders took Maryland wide receiver Darius Heyward-Bey with the seventh overall pick, the 49ers undoubtedly believed they had the leverage they needed to get Crabtree into camp on time. Heyward-Bey would sign the first wide receiver contract, and the Crabtree’s would fall in line behind it.

But, that is not exactly how events are transpiring. Crabtree is apparently expecting a contract value higher than that of the seventh overall pick, given his (and his agent’s) belief that he was the best wide receiver in the draft. Does that logic make sense? Maybe only to an agent… and a cousin. Crabtree’s cousin/advisor, David Wells (no, not that one) has informed anyone within earshot that Crabtree is so put off by the 49ers inability to award him seventh overall-type money that the receiver is willing to sit out the entire 2009 season and re-enter the draft in 2010. Brilliant, right????

Sure, it is the age old problem with rookies and agents. They place their value higher than the league does AND they fail to understand that, on rare occasions, NFL teams draft according to NEED, not to the frustratingly subjective “talent.” But, I digress.

What Crabtree’s situation does put into perspective is the oft-discussed rookie pay scale in the NFL. This type of situation would not arise if rookies in the NFL were each paid according to the position they were drafted. The NFL would control the scale, and it would be increased year by year according to the changes in the salary cap, revenue sharing agreements, so on and so forth.

Crabtree’s situation is not unique, either. Number one overall pick Matthew Stafford is getting $41.7M in guaranteed money from the Detroit Lions. For perspective, that’s $0.7M more than proven, game-changing defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth is getting from the chronically overpaying Washington Redskins. Huge rookie salaries and rookie contract hold outs are as certain as an August gathering in Canton.

The NFL chief punisher/commissioner, Roger Goodell, assured college football players last December that a rookie pay scale would not be instituted until 2011, at the earliest. But, it appears it is an option on the table – at least in New York. Goodell “officially” favors a system that affords rookies all a predetermined contract level plus the opportunity to renegotiate their deal once they have proven themselves. Since team owners are known for their good natured benevolence, it seems certain this approach would work. (I sure hope you readers are picking up on this sarcasm.)

What our fearless debaters will address today is…

Does the NFL need a rookie pay scale?

Loyal Homer will argue in favor of a rookie pay scale regulating all NFL rookie salaries to a set level while Bleacher Fan will argue against the need for a rookie pay scale.

Gentlemen, you are on the clock.

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The NFL Training Camp Position Battle Debate – The Motown Quarterback Battle

July 31, 2009

Read Sports Geek’s argument that the New York Giants wide receiver battle is the year’s best training camp battle and Bleacher Fan’s argument that the Browns quarterback situation is the most fascinating battle looming in training camp .



Guys and gals, we hope you have enjoyed this week’s round of debates. We’ve enjoyed bringing them to you. As you can tell by our topics this week, the three of us are very excited about the upcoming football season, both professional and college football. Yes, we all love baseball. We also all support three different teams passionately, which makes for interesting behind the scenes chatter. But, nothing gets our juices flowing like those fall weekends!

Today, we are discussing which training camp battle promises to be the most intriguing. After some deep thought (yes, I go there occasionally), I have decided that the quarterback battle up in Detroit between rookie Matthew Stafford and veteran Daunte Culpepper is the league’s best.

Let’s recap the situation if you are not familiar. Stafford, of course, was the number one pick in this year’s draft. He played his college ball at the University of Georgia. Prior to being drafted, he agreed to a six year deal worth up to $78 million – with $41.7 million being guaranteed. (Whether or not NFL draft picks receive too much money is definitely a debate we will look at in the future.)Scouts are mixed on him, and there’s actually some question as to who will be a better NFL quarterback. Will it be Stafford or New York Jets first round pick Mark Sanchez? Stafford, without a doubt, has a cannon for an arm. It’s something that allowed him to get away with suspect footwork and inconsistent accuracy in college. That’s not going to happen in the NFL. Nonetheless, he is the future of the Detroit Lions organization and quite possibly the present.

Culpepper played for the Lions last year after signing with them mid-season. He suffered a shoulder injury that cut short his season, but he appears ready to go in 2009. Culpepper is a former star quarterback, having made the Pro Bowl three times earlier this decade with the Minnesota Vikings. Unfortunately, injuries derailed his career and he has been floating around the past few years (with a mini-retirement mixed in at the beginning of the 2008 season.) He’s thrown for over 23,000 yards in his career, so there’s no doubting his past credentials. But, he’d be the first one to tell you he is not what he was in his prime with the Vikings.

This also is not really going to be a dirty battle. Both guys appear to get along. Both are saying all the right things in public. Stafford has put in the work over the summer, but then again, so has Culpepper. Let’s face it… a lot of things are up for grabs with the Lions. Coming off a winless season, no one’s job is really safe. With a new coach in Jim Schwartz, everyone is essentially going to starting fresh.

I know this is off the radar a little. The only reason this battle would get any attention is because of Stafford’s status as a number one pick. What Detroit is going to have to decide is do they want to throw Stafford right into the fire and learn on the fly with a bad team (like Indianapolis did with Peyton Manning) or do they want him learning behind an experienced veteran like Culpepper? No matter what, it will be interesting to see how it turns out.

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The NFL Head Coach Hot Seat Debate, Training Camp Edition – Brad Childress… Is It Getting Hot In Here?

July 24, 2009

Read the Bleacher Fan’s argument that the Cincinnati Bengals’ Marvin Lewis is on the hottest seat and Loyal Homer’s argument that the Dallas Cowboys’ Wade Phillips is on the hottest seat.



Anyone who has a brain knows that “retired” quarterback Brett Favre is going to be donning the Minnesota Vikings’ purple and gold for the 2009 NFL season. With that out of the way, allow me to present you with facts point to Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress has his rump planted squarely on the hottest seat in the NFL as training camps open across the country.

Here is the scene up in Childress’ office in Minneapolis:

The scene opens with Brad Childress sitting behind a large, darkly stained wooden desk. Across the desk from Childress is a chair containing a bunch of eggs. A shadowy outline lurks in a darkened back corner of the office.

Childress: “Thank you for coming today.”
Eggs: “It’s our pleasure, we’re really happy to be on board with you this year.”
Childress: “Yea, I really hope this relationship works out. I can’t foresee any issues.”
Eggs: “Us either, that sounds great.”
Childress: “Well eggs, shall we get introductions out of the way?”
Eggs: “Yea, by all means, take it way. But, you can call us Brett Favre.”
Childress: Casually points to the shadows in the corner of the office as a shift in the room’s light reveals what is lurking in the back.”Okay, great. Eggs, er, Brett Favre, meet your basket.” The eggs calmly jump into the basket without a second thought.

and… SCENE!!

Childress has mortgaged his entire future on the success of Favre’s aging right arm. It’s a risky proposition (just as Eric Mangini). Especially for a coach who is an even 24-24 in the regular season during his tenure in Minneapolis, not including an 0-1 record in the post-season after the team lost at home in the first round of the 2008 playoffs to an average Philadelphia Eagles team 26-14. Though the Vikings have progressed under Childress each season (starting 6-10 in his first season, 8-8 in his second season, and 10-6 last year), many believe the talent at Childress’ disposal is well ahead of the results.

Consider the powerful running game headed by former rookie of the year Adrian Peterson, one of the best running backs in all of football. Many believe the offensive line continues to improve despite the departure of aging center Matt Birk thanks to an already solid left side of the line with left guard Steve Hutchinson and left tackle Bryant McKinnie. Highly-touted draft pick Phil Loadholt is expected to start at right tackle and anchor a side of the line that was troublesome last season. First round draft pick Percy Harvin is expected to add needed athleticism to the wide receiving corps, and the heart of last year’s team – the defense – is expected to maintain their level of play.

In the weakest division in football (thanks, Detroit Lions), winning the division should not be a goal, it should be an expectation.

Brett Favre, though, is the key to the entire operation. Childress has bet his future the quarterback situation, since his questionable handling of Tavaris Jackson – and the even more questionable decision to acquire journeyman quarterback Sage Rosenfels – only brings further scrutiny to the quarterback position and Childress’ decision making. Favre must have another great year to secure owner Zigy Wilf’s confidence in his coach. And the definition of “great” has been expanded to include winning the division and the NFC.

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