The Lions Playing on Thanksgiving Debate Verdict

November 22, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Optimist Prime and Babe Ruthless.

It’s Thanksgiving week, and for better or worse (mostly worse), the Detroit Lions will be as much a part of our lives during this week as those pesky in-laws that come over just to critique how the turkey was cooked… on YOUR smoker… and then have the nerve to hog all the pumpkin pie! Yes, if you can’t tell… Loyal Homer loves food, and football, and that’s where the debate surrounding the Detroit Lions comes in to play. Take note because it’s one of the few debates involving the Detroit Lions, unless we ever debate who the Lions should take with their top draft pick!

Optimist Prime believes in the tradition of the day. After all, for as long as any of the five writers here at TSD have been alive the Lions have been on display. Yes, for a while, it was a chance to see Barry Sanders razzle dazzle defenders and amaze the rest of the nation that didn’t get to see him play every Sunday. But we’ve also seen the worst possible teams that man (also known as Matt Millen) could possibly create. Still, as Optimist Prime indicates, change isn’t always a good thing. And it really is hard to determine which NFL teams will be competitive when the schedule is released during the off-season. For example, coming into the season, I was really excited about the Saints-Cowboys game, the late afternoon game being played on Thursday. But who would have figured the Cowboys would essentially be playing for pride at this point in the season? You just never know!

Babe Ruthless, while acknowledging the talents of the likes of the oft-injured Matt Stafford and Calvin Johnson, basically says that the Lions are a waste of 3.5 hours of national network coverage. A lot of eyes are glued to hi-def televisions and those eyes really don’t want to see a team consistently filled with losers. It’s not like they are lovable losers either, though I do sympathize with them for having Matt Millen as a general manager for an extended period of time.

I’m all for getting the best product on the field at the best possible time, and that’s why I am a big fan of things like the NFL flex scheduling, despite the pains it may cause season ticket holders. It’s also why I am siding with Babe Ruthless in this debate. I think playing on Thanksgiving is a reward and it’s a reward the Lions have not earned over the years. Thanks to the creation of the NFL Network, more teams are able to play on Thanksgiving, and that’s definitely a good thing. But let’s have more good games. Let’s showcase more featured teams. The Lions do not fit the need, and haven’t for some time. Truth be told, I am not a fan of the Cowboys playing on every Thanksgiving either, but at least they are competitive most years.

Optimist Prime also convinced me that a change is necessary. It was stated that, “Football is on as background noise or intermission entertainment between the main course and pumpkin pie.” Obviously, there is some truth in that statement as most people eat their big meal around 12n or 1p, but I don’t know if the NFL wants its game seen as “background noise.” Would a game featuring a higher profile team be background noise? After I stuff my face, chances are good that my family is probably going to sit in front of the TV and talk about our growing waste lines while watching the game. We may casually talk about the game (man, how bad is Detroit this year? When are they going to win a game? Why do we have to watch them?)… but, if the game was more competitive and featured a better home team, then our interest level would be up and that’s what the NFL and its sponsors want.

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The Lions Playing on Thanksgiving Debate

November 22, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Optimist Prime and Babe Ruthless.

It’s Thanksgiving week everyone! A slack week at work for some of you, a little bit of food, and a little bit of football. At Loyal Homer’s house, Thursday consists of a LOT of food and a LOT of football.

For my entire life, at least one of the games on Thursday has featured a Detroit Lions game. In fact, this year is the 76th consecutive year that the Motor City has hosted a game on Turkey Day.

Death, taxes, and Detroit Lions football on Thanksgiving are all guarantees. It’s almost a certainty. But with the almost annual struggles of the Lions – and 2010 is no different – is it a good thing for the league to continue to showcase the Lions? The quality of the game usually suffers with the Lions as one of the participants. In theory, so would the ratings. That’s where today’s debate comes in.

Should the Detroit Lions still have the honor of playing one of the games on Thanksgiving?

Optimist Prime will argue that tradition wins out and that the Lions should keep playing on Thanksgiving. Babe Ruthless will argue that the Lions have lost the privilege of playing on the holiday.

The winner gets assurances from me that I won’t show up invited on Thursday and eat all the food!! (Editor’s Note: Probably. NO guarantees here.)

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The Early Season NFL Injury Debate… In Like a Lion, Out Like a Lamb

September 27, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Sports Geek and Loyal Homer.

It just doesn’t seem fair, does it?

The Steelers, who traded away their top receiver, Santonio Holmes, after a multitude of legal issues, then saw Ben Roethlisberger suspended for his off-season activities. And now the team is cruising with a 3-0 record on the arm of the FOURTH-string quarterback.

Even the Jets, who have a front office, apparently, that does not care how classless and trashy the team looks, flaunt profanity, harass female TV reporters, and offer only token punishments for guys who get arrested for a DWI. Yet even the Jets have managed to win this season.

Then we have the Detroit Lions. No suspensions, scandals, controversies, or crimes of note. But more importantly, no wins yet again as we close out week three of the season.

Does Karma take Sundays off?

Despite winning only two games since the start of the 2008 season, the Lions were entering 2010 with real reasons for optimism, thanks in large part to the combination of Matthew Stafford, Calvin Johnson, and rookie running back Jahvid Best on offense. Through the first half of the week one game against the Chicago Bears it appeared that potential really was progressing toward proven. Matt Stafford was 11-15 in passing for 83 yards, Jahvid Best scored two rushing touchdowns, and the Lions stormed out to a 14-3 lead over the division rival Chicago Bears.

Unfortunately for Detroit, that’s where the good news ends.

As the first half drew to a close Stafford suffered a shoulder injury which knocked him out of the game, completely derailing any progress the Lions had hoped for while starting the 2010 campaign. Although it is true that the Lions were not going to be legitimate Super Bowl contenders this season, it does not change the absolutely devastating impact that Stafford’s injury has on the Lions.

Now, I don’t normally play the “What if” game, but who knows what would have happened if Stafford had remained healthy.

After losing Stafford the Lions went on to lose the first two games by a COMBINED total of only eight points. Perhaps if the Lions had the BEST quarterback in the game (instead of backup Shaun Hill), they would have gotten a little more production out of the offense, and would have come into yesterday’s game against the Vikings at 2-0 instead of 0-2.

Perhaps, if Stafford had remained healthy, the Lions’ box score from last weekend would have read better than 234 yards, one touchdown, and two interceptions against a struggling Vikings team.

Perhaps, if the Lions had been able to bring positive momentum into yesterday’s game, they would have been in FIRST place in the NFC North, rather than last place.

But those things didn’t happen. Instead, the Lions ARE in last place, and now that Jahvid Best is also injured, they appear to once more be in contention for the dubious honor of being the worst team in football.

Matthew Stafford’s injury has come at a much greater cost to the Detroit Lions than any other injury sustained around the league. The Lions will only find improvement with Stafford at the helm. Until he returns, Detroit fans better get used to losing (well, I guess they already are).

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The Best Game of THIS Weekend Debate… Lion(s) Share of Questions

September 17, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Babe Ruthless and Sports Geek.

It is only week two of the NFL season and we already have a matchup between two backup quarterbacks.

Unfortunately, that is only the start of the issues facing the Philadelphia Eagles and Detroit Lions on Sunday. Both teams find are in the extremely rare situation of entering the second game with MORE questions than were faced on opening weekend.

Let’s start with the Eagles.

For the last decade the Eagles have been led on the field by quarterback Donovan McNabb. In the off-season, though, the team made a strategic decision to look toward the future by trading McNabb to the division rivals Washington Redskins. The young and highly anticipated prospect, Kevin Kolb, was given the keys to the kingdom.

So how did that decision pay off in week one? In less than two quarters of playing time, Kolb struggled under the pressure provided by the Packers defense and he went 5-10 with only 24 passing yards. Then, to make matters worse, he was knocked out of the game with a concussion.

Replacing Kolb, Michael Vick (yeah, THAT Michael Vick) finally got his opportunity to once more lead an NFL offense as THE quarterback, and he never looked back. Even though the Eagles lost the game, Vick looked spectacular playing like he hasn’t missed any time at all since his pre-prison Pro Bowl days. During his time on the field Vick was 16-24 for 175 yards with one touchdown, and he added another 103 rushing yards to the mix… just for some variety.

And with Kolb not passing his concussion test until yesterday (he failed his first try on Wednesday), it looks like Vick will get another shot to prove that he deserves more than just a supporting role in the NFL.

Then, the Lions.

If ever there was a rock bottom in the NFL, the Detroit Lions found it. The Lions went a pathetic 2-30 over the last two seasons and were coming into 2010 with no place to go but up. The team was entering 2010 with some very real expectations for genuine improvement, with Matt Stafford and Calvin Johnson coming back to lead the offense along with explosive rookie running back, Jahvid Best.

And to the delight of the fans, the Lions showed signs of improvement during the week one matchup with the Chicago Bears. But a controversial call at the end of the game cost the team victory. Like Kolb, Stafford was knocked out of the game, only Stafford’s injury was in his shoulder.

If the news of Stafford’s injury wasn’t bad enough for Lions fans, the name of his doctor surely must be –Dr. James Andrews (although Dr. Andrews stated that Stafford would not need surgery, which had to ease the blow at least a little bit).

So now it is up to Shaun Hill to try and continue leading the development of the Lions’ offense.

Neither of these teams want to start the season off at 0-2, but with so many questions sitting unanswered right now, it is virtually impossible to try and predict a winner.

Will there be a new quarterback controversy in Philadelphia?!

Is Matt Stafford REALLY that valuable to an NFL franchise, and are the Lions REALLY improving?!

Did Calvin Johnson go back and study the fundamentals of completing a reception?!

Will Rocky and Bullwinkle find the missing ingredient for the rocket fuel formula?!

Be with us Sunday for “Eagles Come, Eagles Go,” or “The Goal Lion Stand!”

Editor’s Note: Sigh.

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The NFL What to Watch For in 2010 Debate… Blackouts Could Black Out NFL’s Popularity

September 13, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

The NFL got off to a spectacular start in week one with thrilling finishes in several games. Surely you saw some of them. What has people talking this morning is the play at the end of the Bears-Lions game where Lions’ receiver Calvin Johnson had a touchdown catch taken away after not holding on to the ball throughout the entire “process of the catch.”

But there are storylines building out there that could drown out any “on the field” stories that may build over the course of the season. Unfortunately, I’m talking about that “B” word that neither the league nor the teams even likes to mention. I’m talking about blackouts.

You may recall that The Sports Debates had a debate on the NFL blackout policy last September. Having a game “blacked out” locally means a game cannot be televised locally if the game isn’t sold out. It’s an NFL policy that’s been in place for thirty-seven years, and one that I don’t agree with at all. But they didn’t ask me. It ended being a real problem last season as 22 games were blacked out in local markets. The blackouts came courtesy of five teams (Jaguars, Lions, Chiefs, Raiders, and Rams), including a disturbing seven blackouts in Jacksonville. This season, blackouts are possible in those cities and also in markets featuring three 2009 playoff teams (Arizona, Cincinnati, and San Diego). It will be a miracle to have fewer blackouts this season that last.

Yesterday, the home opener – yes, THE HOME OPENER – at Tampa was blacked out because the game wasn’t sold out. It really wasn’t close to sold out as only 41,554 walked through the turnstiles at Raymond James Stadium. It’s never a good thing when that’s the attendance at the first game. What’s the attendance going to be like when the Bucs host the Detroit Lions on December 19th? If there was ever a regular season game flagged for a blackout, that would have to be it.

Blackouts are such an issue that even a United States Senator is voicing his opinion. Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown recently wrote a letter to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, asking for a change in the NFL’s blackout policy. He fights the good fights for his Ohio constituents, saying that “is deeply troubling that increasing blackouts could deprive families and friends the tradition of watching their beloved Cleveland Browns or Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday afternoons.”

As the season goes on and blackouts continue, fans are the ones that will continue to lose. Many of you may not live in a “local” market, so the blackout rules don’t apply to you. But to those of you that do live in the local market of your team, you obviously have a huge interest in how ticket sales go. If you live just outside of Kansas City, there’s a good chance you won’t be watching the Chiefs host the 49ers in week three because the game could be blacked out locally. It’s an ongoing problem the league is facing. And I don’t see it going away.

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The Most Surprising NFL Division Debate – NFC North Tops the Surprise Charts in 2009

December 23, 2009

Read the arguments from Babe Ruthless and Loyal Homer about which NFL division has been the most surprising.



As is always the case, there have been many surprises in the NFL in 2009. Teams which were supposed to succeed will fail, and teams which are supposed to fail will succeed. The NFC North, though, went four-for-four in the surprise category this season.

Detroit Lions

On the ‘Surprise-o-Meter’ the Detroit Lions provide the smallest blip of all the teams in the NFC North. But, realistically, would you have picked them to win two games all season? I thought that the only achievement the Lions were going to claim this season was the new record for consecutive losses. Instead, they managed to put together not just one, but TWO wins. Again, this is not an Earth-shattering surprise, but it is a surprise nonetheless.

Green Bay Packers

Coming in next on the scale of surprises from the NFC North is the Green Bay Packers. The Packers, who had been pegged as the likely champions of the division (with some even going so far as to choose the Packers as the NFC representatives in the Super Bowl), have played some of the most inconsistent football in the league. Behind quarterback Aaron Rodgers, the Packers have displayed the potential to put a TON of points on the board, scoring 30 points or more in five games, and being held to less than 20 points only once in the entire season. Those offensive stats should have been enough to lock up a playoff spot by this point in the season.

The reason that the Packers have been unable to seal the deal up to this point in the season is because of an inability to put away the teams that should have been easiest to beat. The Packers, despite offensive prowess, somehow managed to hand the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that team’s only win of the season, and most recently helped Pittsburgh end a five game losing streak which included losses against the Oakland Raiders, Kansas City Chiefs, and Cleveland Browns.

For a team pegged to make a Super Bowl run this season, that kind of inconsistency has been a surprise!

Chicago Bears

I would like to file a missing persons report – The Chicago Bears offense, which was expected to show up at Lambeau Field in Green Bay on September 13th, 2009, never arrived at their anticipated destination, and has not been seen or heard from since.

No offense in the NFL came into the season with higher expectations, and then failed to meet those expectations, as spectacularly as the Bears. After closing an alleged blockbuster deal that brought quarterback Jay Cutler to the Windy City, folks all over Chi-Town were giddy with anticipation to see what a bona-fide quarterback could actually do for their beloved Bears.

After all the anticipation, how exactly DID the Bears’ offense do behind that bona-fide quarterback? They have played to a record of 5-9, scoring 25 or more points only three times all season (against the Browns, Lions, and Seahawks… not exactly the NFL’s most dominant teams). In terms of season statistics, the team ranks 23rd out of 32 teams with only 18.1 points per game. For his part, Jay Cutler has thrown only 19 touchdowns to 25 interceptions, and has a passer rating of only 71.1.

I would rank the Chicago Bears as being one of the biggest disappointments of the entire season.

Minnesota Vikings

As surprising as the letdown of the Chicago Bears offense might have been, it is actually the Minnesota Vikings who top the surprise charts for 2009.

Brett Favre’s resurgence may not be a surprise any more (15 weeks later), but when you consider the manner in which he entered the season, it has clearly been one of the biggest surprises of 2009. Behind Favre, the Vikings have already clinched the NFC North, and stand poised to claim one of the two postseason byes in the NFC. Not bad for a team who’s coach, Brad Childress, was viewed as being on the hot seat when the season began!

Favre has not been the only surprise for the Vikings, though, and much of his success MUST be credited to his weapons on offense. Adrian Peterson has once again provided very strong numbers at the running back position, but it is the emergence of three receiving threats – Sidney Rice, tight end Visanthe Shiancoe, and NFL Rookie-of-the-Year frontrunner Percy Harvin – that has made the Vikings one of the most dangerous teams in the league.

Good or bad, the NFC North has been the most surprising division in the entire league. From top to bottom, it seems that none of the teams from the division got their respective memos on how to perform in 2009. They have collectively provided some of the biggest headlines of the NFL season, and have added some excitement and drama to a season that has been woefully lacking of both.

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The Best Game of THIS Weekend Debate – Holiday Traditions

November 26, 2009

Read the arguments from Sports Geek and Loyal Homer about which game they believe will be the best game of THIS weekend.



Happy Thanksgiving!

Turkey Day is a time of tradition for many people across our country. Whether it is getting together with friends for the annual “Turkey Bowl” football game at your local park, a favorite dish that you look forward to all year at your Thanksgiving dinner, or a special activity that you share with your friends and family, tradition is a big part of how we give thanks. Another annual Thanksgiving tradition is Detroit Lions football!

It doesn’t matter that the Lions are 2-8 this season or that they are likely to get CRUSHED by their division rival Green Bay Packers. This is the game to watch this weekend. Why? Tradition!

The Detroit Lions have been a part of Thanksgiving Day since 1934. Like the Macy’s parade, the Lions have become an indispensible piece of the holiday experience. With the exception of a five-year layoff between 1939 and 1944 due to World War II, the Detroit Lions have played football on every single Thanksgiving Day for the past 75 years. Generations of Americans have gathered together on the last Thursday of every November to celebrate their lives, families and friends, and those parts of life they are most thankful for. After the feast every year, those same generations have gathered together to hear or watch the Lions play football.

Once again today, millions of people around the country are gathering together for some turkey with all the fixin’s. After second-helpings (or in my case, third-helpings), and a piece or two of pumpkin pie, many family will settle down into a sofa, loosen their respective belts, and tune in as Aaron Rodgers and the Packers travel to Detroit.

With the Minnesota Vikings at the front of the NFC North with a record of 9-1, the Packers are not likely to win the NFC North this season. Instead, the Packers are competing for one of the Wild Card spots. Currently they stand at 6-4 and are tied with the New York Giants and Philadelphia Eagles for the two remaining postseason spots. Because the Giants and Eagles both have seemingly more difficult schedules to close out the season, the Packers need to make sure they capitalize on “gimme” games like a matchup today against the Lions. They cannot afford to get caught looking ahead, because each game could make the difference in whether or not they reach the playoffs.

The Detroit Lions, despite a very exciting come from behind victory against the Cleveland Browns last weekend, will likely finish out this season in very bleak fashion. Adding to the struggles of the Lions (like they didn’t have enough problems already), they will be playing today without quarterback Matt Stafford and wide receiver Calvin Johnson. Without two of their primary offensive weapons available, the Lions will have to rely on their worst-ranked defense to stop Aaron Rodgers, who has been one of the top quarterbacks in the league so far this season. I hate to say it, but I don’t think the Lions will be up to the challenge today.

The game may turn out to be a one-sided affair, but it is a Thanksgiving tradition that cannot be beaten. Spending the day with friends and family, enjoying good food, celebrating all that you are thankful for, and watching the Lions play football is what makes Thanksgiving so enjoyable. Besides, this game will also provide the perfect excuse for slipping into a turkey-induced nap before your second round of dessert begins!

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The NFL Most Deceiving Record Debate – Andy Reid Uses Misdirection, Fools Fans, League

September 30, 2009

Read Loyal Homer and Bleacher Fan’s arguments about which team they believe has the most deceiving record in the NFL.



The headline fits. Andy Reid is putting together one heckuva a coaching job so far in the 2009 season. He signed quarterback he did not need in Michael Vick, he unexpectedly lost a quarterback he DID need with Donavan McNabb’s injury, and he is getting much more of a quarterback he was not sure he even wanted in Kevin Kolb.

After a 1-3 preseason (like THAT matters), the Philadelphia Eagles have looked quite solid with a 2-1 record as the team enters its bye week. The Eagles are currently second in the NFC East behind the New York Giants. The team has overcome the potential distraction of Michael Vick’s presence as McNabb seems to remain the team’s leader despite his injury.

Everything seems to point to a great season for the Eagles, right? Wrong. The Philadelphia Eagles have the league’s most deceiving win-loss record.

After the team returns from the bye week it will host the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a team that is thanking its lucky stars the Cleveland Browns are so bad. Then the Eagles hit the road to face the 1-2 Oakland Raiders and the 1-2 Washington Redskins – you know, the team that just lost to the DETROIT LIONS. It is hard to imagine an easier schedule in the entire league. It is very possible that the team ends up 5-1 after the first two months of the season are in the books.

But, that is when the wheels will fall off the Eagles’ first class train ride to Miami for Super Bowl XLIV.

When the calendar turns to November, the season becomes more difficult and the team’s true nature will be revealed. The Eagles play five games in November, starting by hosting the New York Giants and Dallas Cowboys before hitting the road to face the San Diego Chargers and the Chicago Bears. The final game of the month is at home against the struggling Redskins. November may change the Eagles 5-1 fortunes as they play much tougher defenses and offenses that will test the team’s limits.

The season does not get any easier in December, either. The Eagles play the Atlanta Falcons in Atlanta – think they will boo Michael Vick? – then the Giants in New York before hosting a resurgent San Francisco 49ers and the league’s best defense to date, the Denver Broncos. Then they play at Dallas to end the season.

A strong start is vital if the team believes it has any chance to make the playoffs. The Eagles must bank early victories against subpar teams to ready itself when the schedule becomes more difficult when the weather turns colder.

The Eagles also struggle with injuries year in, year out. Running back Brian Westbrook has never avoided injured reserve for an entire season. McNabb has been injured more often in recent years, too. The Eagles have already lost four players for the entire season are playing with a depleted linebacking corps and secondary.

The Eagles also play in a very difficult division where the Cowboys and Giants are two of the elite teams in the entire league. The Wild Card spots are more uncertain than ever before, too, considering the emergence of the NFC North as a decent division and the strength of the Falcons and New Orleans Saints in the NFC South. For the Eagles to have a shot at returning to playoff glory, early wins must be combined with the capacity to survive the season physically and emotionally.

With a depleted, injury-riddled team and an increasingly difficult schedule on the horizon, the Philadelphia Eagles have the most deceiving record in the NFL.

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The Which NFL Team Should Be Demoted Debate – Motown Misery

September 7, 2009

Read Sports Geek and Loyal Homer’s arguments for which teams they think should be demoted from the NFL.



Happy Labor Day, everybody!

Because today is a holiday, we here at TSD decided we would have a little fun for the debate topic to kick off the week. While the debate for today regards the NFL, it was inspired by the English Football Leagues (I am speaking of soccer, of course).

For those of you who are unfamiliar with European soccer, the English Football Leagues have a very unique system in place to help make sure that every matchup within the highest levels of their competition (The English Premier League) remains as competitive and entertaining as possible. It is the process of team promotion and relegation (demotion).

Simply put, the worst teams in each league at the end of the season are kicked out (demoted into a lower level league), and replaced by the best teams from that lower level. Essentially, if you fail, you get kicked out of the league, it is as simple as that.

Can you imagine what that would look like in the NFL?! Imagine if teams like the Oakland Raiders, St. Louis Rams, or Detroit Lions – following their performances in recent years – were actually kicked out of the NFL, and had to play instead in the UFL (for example) until they “earned” their way back into the NFL! It would certainly make those week 17 snooze-fests between the Cleveland Browns and the San Francisco 49ers a lot more entertaining if one of those teams were actually facing League demotion!

So with that thought in our minds, the question we are arguing for this Labor Day is – IF the NFL were to adopt the English Football League system of promotion and demotion, which team in the NFL would be MOST deserving of getting demoted out of the league?

Loyal Homer will argue that the St. Louis Rams should be first to go, and Sports Geek will argue that the Oakland Raiders should be the first to the chopping block.

As far as Bleacher Fan is concerned, I think the argument should go no further than the Detroit Lions!

The first (and most obvious) reason to demote the Detroit Lions is the fact that they could not win a single game during 2008 season! Last season marked the first time in over 30 years that a team went through the entire football season having lost every regular season game, and when the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did it in back in 1976 they were an expansion team, somewhat mitigating the impact of their winless year.

My point is that this was no pedestrian accomplishment, and if you were going to demote a team out of the league for poor performance, shouldn’t it be the one team that lost EVERY SINGLE TIME they set foot on the field? Who on earth could argue that the Lions DESERVE to remain in the NFL when they can’t beat any of the other teams IN the NFL?

My reasons for demotion, go MUCH further than the single performance of 2008.

You see, 2008 was no fluke for the Lions. In fact, with the exception of the Barry Sanders era during the 1990’s (which still had its share of disappointment), the Detroit Lions have been underperforming since the 1950’s!

In the 52 years since the Detroit Lions last NFL Championship (I will save you the hassle of pulling out a calculator… it was 1957), the Detroit Lions have appeared in the playoffs only nine times, five of which can largely be credited solely to the amazing talent of Hall of Fame running back Barry Sanders during the 1990’s. They have also not won a division championship since 1993, and have not won a conference championship since 1957. By comparison, the Indianapolis Colts have reached the playoffs nine times in the last 10 years, the New England Patriots have accomplished that feat within the last 12 years, and you only need to go back 13 years for the Pittsburgh Steelers last nine playoff appearances.

When you look at the Lions’ history OUTSIDE of Barry Sanders contribution, you have the following results:

From 1957 to 1989 (when Barry Sanders joined the Lions), the Lions only appeared in the playoffs three times (1970, 1982, and 1983). Then, following Sanders’ retirement in 1998, they have only reached the playoffs once (1999).

The Detroit Lions are one of only THREE teams in the NFL that have not played a single playoff game since 2000. The other two teams are the Houston Texans (who have not yet reached the postseason in their short history as a franchise), and the Buffalo Bills. The Texans and the Bills can also credit SOME of their struggles since the turn of the millennium to the absolute DOMINANCE of other teams within their divisions (the aforementioned Colts and Patriots). The Lions, on the other hand, have played in the NFC North, which has been one of the weakest divisions in football since 2000. In fact, every other team in the NFC North (the Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers, and Chicago Bears) has managed to win the division at least TWICE within the last decade.

On the rare occurrence that they DO reach the playoffs, the Lions’ performance has also been very disappointing. Their record in those nine postseason appearances following their last championship in 1957 is 1-9. That means that the Detroit Lions have only won ONE playoff game in the last 52 years!

Over the past half-century, no team has failed to achieve more than has Detroit. When thinking about teams that do not deserve to play in the NFL, the name at the top of the list should be the Detroit Lions!

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The 2009 Toughest Division in the NFL Debate – Introducing the Tough and Challenging NFC North

August 31, 2009

Read Bleacher Fan and Loyal Homer’s arguments for which division in the NFL will be the toughest in the 2009 season.



The toughest division in the NFL this season has nothing to do with 2008, and everything to do with 2009. An influx of talent, and necessary culture of change for the better, must be unmatched in any other division. With the topsy-turvy “what have you done lately” nature of the NFL, the secret to forecasting the toughest division in the NFL lies with the division with the most untapped potential. That division, without question, is the NFC North.

Rather than rookies peppering the new talent landscape in the NFC North, the new players come with tremendous experience and physical ability. Taking that into consideration, along with the fact that we are naming the TOUGHEST division, how can anyone argue against a division that includes premier linebackers Brian Urlacher and A.J. Hawk? The NFC North is synonymous with toughness, and 2009 is no exception.

The Chicago Bears focused their offseason on a single position, and vastly improved their outlook for 2009 by remaking the quarterback position. Jay Cutler offers control (as he exhibited in the third preseason game IN Denver), talent, and leadership. General manager Jerry Angelo also brought in future hall of fame left tackle Orlando Pace to protect Cutler’s blind side and also get more push on the left side in goal line situations. Offensive coordinator Ron Turner has also tailored the offense to Cutler’s liking, giving him plenty of long ball opportunities (to avoid the desire to force one) while also creating excellent check downs to running backs Matt Forte and Kevin Jones. The Bears have great special teams, too. Oh, then there’s the defense. While they were riddled with injuries in 2008, the entire defense returns healthy. Perhaps most importantly, the Bears are avoiding indecision and transition now. Eliminating former quarterbacks Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman are big helps, but also getting rid of perpetually injured strong safety Mike Brown was important. Certainty and consistent are the friends of winning teams.

Speaking of which, perhaps the team with the most upside and potential for 2009 is the team with the least movement in the 2008-2009 offseason. The Green Bay Packers got better by playing together and getting more comfortable on both the offensive and defensive sides. They have needed no big offseason acquisitions, no splashy trades, no tough losses to free agency. They were steady from a personnel standpoint. Normally this brings words like “plateau” and “status quo” to mind. But the Packers will improve. They have quarterback Aaron Rodgers, in my opinion the best draft pick from 2005 draft. All he did was throw for over 4,000 yards last season with strong and steady wide receivers Donald Driver and Greg Jennings. The running back position is more solid for 2009, too, with five capable running backs on the roster. Starter Ryan Grant is now a proven force in the league, but Brandon Jackson proved he is an excellent third down back and running option. Youngsters Kregg Lumpkin and rookie Tyrell Sutton are a good potential thunder and lightning type combination, and DeShawn Wynn has the type of balance and explosiveness all general manager’s seek.

The Minnesota Vikings were already strong on defense and special teams last season (how is this the first season where special teams coordinator is regarded as an “official” coordinator??). The offense needed to improve and become more consistent. It has, thanks to the late preseason acquisition of quarterback Brett Favre. Though some in the clubhouse have not welcomed Favre with open arms, his style and success will change all of that. Once open receivers are hit, along with the balance of running back Adrian Peterson, a good offense becomes a potentially big play offense. Playmaker Percy Harvin adds excitement to the mix, as well, improving the overall team speed and explosiveness. The defense was good last year and will remain good, frustrating good running games with the Williams brothers in the middle and creating havoc in the passing game with pass rush specialist Jared Allen.

And then there is the Detroit Lions. I will not insult anyone by saying they will be tough. But, three top notch teams in a division is pretty darn good. At year’s end, they will be better than any other division – this season’s version of the AFC East.

You may have read this entire article and still ask yourself, “How in the world can this moron pick a division that contained a 0-16 team as the toughest?” Simple – momentum. How can the Lions get any worse? That cannot. And there is a good chance they will be good. New coaches, fresh perspective, easy schedule, and low expectations. It is a good formula for surprising in the NFL. They will just have to get past the rest of their division, and that will be no easy task.

The reality and parity of the NFL dictates that it is impossible to forecast or predict anything. Making an unconventional, bold pick is the surest way to be labeled a moron in the preseason, and get forgotten when it actually happens. As I have pointed out before, bold is my middle name. I do not shy away from making a courageous proclamation. Especially when I feel I am right.

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