The Shorten NASCAR Races Debate… No Reason To Fix A Race

February 1, 2011

Read the opposing argument from Optimist Prime.

Speedweeks is quickly approaching, and for those are you who are not familiar with that term, that is the official start of the NASCAR season at Daytona International Speedway. Changes are forthcoming for NASCAR this year. In case you missed, it was announced last Wednesday that NASCAR was overhauling its points system to make it easier for the common fan to understand. This was done in part to stop a trend of sagging attendance and falling television ratings. Now comes word that Fox Sports chairman David Hill wouldn’t mind seeing NASCAR races fit into a broadcast window. This led Sports Geek to ask Optimist Prime and myself to debate the issue of shortening NASCAR races, and whether or not broadcasters and sponsors should have any say so in it. I am strongly opposed to having broadcasters “fix” any races… and yes, I did throw the word “fix” out there.

The current contract that Fox Sports has with NASCAR is in effect for four more years. The fact that the sport has been on the network since 2001, with its inaugural race being the race Dale Earnhardt Sr. was tragically killed, shows that it’s been a profitable relationship. But, to pigeonhole a race into a certain time slot is a multicar wreck of Talladega proportions.

For starters, a race isn’t a ball game. It doesn’t have quarters or innings to go by. Yeah, it has laps or miles to go by, but how many times is a race extended due to a green-white checkered finish? How many times is there a massive wreck and the race is given the red flag, thus causing a lengthy delay?

How do you shorten the Daytona 500 by the way? You can’t! I do agree with Dale Earnhardt Jr., who says that he believes some races could probably be shortened, such as the two races at Pocono. Those are two boring races and they are less than two months apart from each other during the season. But I do understand the point of view that races are too long. However, Dale Jr. is a driver, and one of the more popular ones at that. He, not David Hill, deserves a say in how his sport his run. He isn’t sitting in some office wearing a suit deciding these things. Mr. Hill can dot the I’s and cross the T’s on TV contracts. Leave the racing, and making decisions about the sport itself, to the people inside the sport.

Optimist Prime is probably going to argue that since the four TV networks (Fox, TNT, ABC, and ESPN) are paying a rather large chunk of change, they should have a say in the length of the races and other decisions that may improve the sport. But do the networks have a say with the length of the other sports they are involved in? I think not! Yeah, they do have a say of when the games are televised, but hey, these four networks have a say in when these races are televised also, which is why some of the start times for the ten Chase races have been changed to avoid conflict with the juggernaut that is NFL football (assuming it happens) in the Fall.

I respect the fact that broadcasters and sponsors want to maximize their profit potential. Obviously, that’s good business sense. They can do anything they want to promote the product they in which they are invested. But it’s not smart to throw their weight around into changing the structure of the actual sport. That’s crossing the line, and it’s a line that doesn’t need to be crossed.

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The Sprint Cup Drivers Competing in Nationwide Debate – Greedy Sprint Cup Drivers

August 6, 2009

Read the debate intro and read Bleacher Fan’s argument that Sprint Cup drivers should be allowed to race in the Nationwide Series .



I am glad we are discussing a NASCAR topic today. As a NASCAR fan, I have heard this question asked by casual fans and I still do not know if I have heard a good answer. The question which Sports Geek asks is should Sprint Cup drivers be allowed to race and compete for the championship in the Nationwide Series? And to answer that question, I simple say NO!

The Nationwide Series (then sponsored by Anheuser-Busch) began in 1982. The purpose of the series was designed to give up and coming drivers a place to hone their driving skills. Essentially, here is how it works. A driver is signed by an owner. The driver comes up through developmental circuits and before they get to the big leagues (Sprint Cup), they drive in the Nationwide Series. It is the equivalent of playing in Triple A baseball. After a successful run in the Nationwide Series, hopefully, the driver will assume a role in the Sprint Cup.

However, there is a little group of people called “Buschwhackers” who impede this process. Buschwackers are Sprint Cup regulars (guys who are established Sprint Cup championship contenders like Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards) who drive in the Nationwide Series on a regular basis. Joey Logano, who is an up and coming star in the Sprint Cup Series and who is also only 19-years-old, drives in the Nationwide Series and currently sits in the top ten in points. However, I hesitate to mention him because I have no problem with him driving on the circuit. He is a rookie driver and needs the experience at the tracks to further his development.

My problem with the Bushwhackers is that they take away spots from deserving youngsters. What do Edwards and Busch have to gain by driving on Saturdays, other than padding their already lucrative pockets? They have already had plenty of track experience at every one of the tracks the Sprint Cup goes to. What if there is a development driver that needs a spot in the Nationwide Series to enhance his future? His chances are limited if these guys are taking up spots that are not rightfully theirs. Every week, small teams that lack the financial resources of others try to make the race for that week. How can they compete against drives like Edwards and Busch?

The big event race for all three NASCAR series (Sprint Cup, Nationwide Series, and Camping World Truck Series) takes place in Daytona in February. If we go back and look at the results from the Nationwide race, you see that twelve of the top 13 finishing drivers in the race (including the winner, Tony Stewart) currently have a full time ride in the Sprint Cup. Only Jason Keller was a non-Sprint Cup driver. How does this help the QUALITY of NASCAR? How is the Nationwide Series supposed to be a true “minor league” if it is constantly filled up with “major league” players? NASCAR, as a whole, cannot grow if the big league drivers constantly beat up on the little guys.

The Nationwide Series was created to be a stepping stone to the big leagues! However, what happens if there is nobody to step on the stone? Just ask yourself that! In 15-20 years, when these Buschwhackers are sitting on their couches with their beer guts, they will be watching a Sprint Cup series with little quality because the drivers had driving opportunities taken away from them by greedy drivers. Thanks Buschwhackers! Just ruin the sport, why don’t ya?

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The Danica Patrick Future Debate – Sometimes You Wanna Go Where Everybody Knows Your

June 29, 2009

Read Loyal Homer’s argument that Danica should go to NASCAR, and Sports Geek’s that she should go to Formula 1.


  • Shelley Long
  • David Caruso
  • Jesse Ventura
  • Deion Sanders
  • Danica Patrick???

Notice a trend? As far as the first four names are concerned, each realized success in a particular field, then foolishly attempted a change to a different platform – with abysmal results. I say ‘foolishly’ because they allowed a moderate level of success to fool them each into thinking that they were, for lack of a better term, bigger than they REALLY were.

For example, Shelley Long and David Caruso, after a season each on the hit TV shows Cheers and NYPD Blue, respectively, decided they would walk away from what were surely to be long and successful runs in order to pursue movie careers. Or Jesse Ventura and his transition into politics after making a name for himself in professional wrestling and TRYING to make a name for himself in acting (Predator WAS a cool movie, though). Then there’s “Neon Deion Prime-Time” Sanders, who thought that a guest spot on a Hammer video, combined with talent on the football and baseball fields, qualified him as a musician.

Now speculation exists that Danica Patrick may be considering a similar mistake.

There are two reasons why a switch from Indy to NASCAR would be worthwhile for Danica. The first is if she believed she could successfully compete against the field at Bristol, Daytona, Martinsville, or the Brickyard. Considering the fact that she is only now beginning to actually compete in standings within the IRL, though, it would seem foolish to me that she throw all that away to start anew in NASCAR.

If we’re being completely honest, Danica Patrick is not a racing powerhouse. Despite being in the IRL since 2005, her first (and ONLY) career win did not come until 2008 at the Japan 300. As for her final season standings, she has never finished better than sixth in IRL Championship standings, and is currently only in fifth place for the 2009 season.

In her defense, she has shown signs of promise. She finished third at the Indy 500 this year, and has progressively climbed higher and higher in the season standings with each year. That said, she is in no way considered to be among the elite drivers in the sport.

I think it’s safe to say that her notoriety has come more from her presence in front of a camera (click the link… you’ll thank me for it!) than it has to do with her prowess on the raceway. So, if the proverbial “IT” ain’t broke, then why try to fix it?

Reason number two to jump is if the change in some way advanced her celebrity status, which also seems an unlikely outcome. Despite a lack of consistent success on the track, Danica is still the undisputed point’s leader when it comes to celebrity standings within the league.

Think about the other names in Indy Car racing (if you can). Guys like Scott Dixon, Helio Castroneves, Tony Kanaan, and Dan Wheldon aren’t exactly showing up on a Wheaties box any time soon. In fact, short of the racing legends that are the Andretti’s (one of which happen to be Danica’s teammates), there’s not another name in the Indy series right now more recognizable than Danica Patrick. She is, regardless of where she finishes on the track, the face of Indy racing.

If she were to make the move to NASCAR she would no longer be the standout face in the crowd. She would instead be in the same league as Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. These aren’t just guys who drive cars. Each of these men (and many others like them in NASCAR) have made millions because of franchising a number! Think of all the number 24’s you see on the highway, or the jackets and ball caps you see with the number 14. The celebrities of NASCAR have built an industry for themselves that Danica Patrick could not even dream of realizing.

It is a fraternity (pardon the expression, Ms. Patrick) that is exclusive only to those who can legitimately drive on racing’s biggest stage – NASCAR. If Danica tries to make that switch, her only accomplishment will be getting lost in the pack.


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