The Unbeatens in the BCS Debate – Too Much BCS Confusion

December 8, 2009

Read the debate intro and Sports Geek’s argument that a bunch of unbeaten teams in BCS games is a good thing.



Back in the middle of the season I saw this as a possibility. Many teams were undefeated, and I envisioned many of them staying that way through the end of the regular season. Critics kept saying, “We’ve seen this before. It’ll sort itself out. It always does.” Well, I am still waiting for the sorting out. In fact, it looks like I am going to be waiting quite awhile. Five undefeated teams (Alabama, Florida, Boise State, TCU, and Cincinnati) currently are starting preparations for postseason BCS bowl games. As Bleacher Fan stated in the intro, only two of those have a chance to win the ultimate prize – the BCS national championship. In just looking at that fact alone, there is no way whatsoever that is a good thing for the BCS as a whole.

The main goal of the Bowl Championship Series is to find the two best teams and put them in the national championship game. The BCS wants to crown a champion. Most people, even Cincinnati head coach Brian Kelly, have said that the best two teams are playing in Pasadena. For the record, Loyal Homer is not convinced.

I am not saying I am right, I am not saying I am wrong. What I am saying is that we do not know who the best teams are. How do we know that Cincinnati or TCU, on any given night, are unable to match up with either the Longhorns or the Crimson Tide? “Experts” tend to not view Boise State as a contender, but they are one of the three teams (Boise State, Alabama, and Ohio State) who have a win over another BCS team. Boise State defeated Oregon in the season opener, Alabama beat Florida last weekend, and Ohio State defeated Iowa in November.

As Bleacher Fan stated in the intro, last season Utah had a gripe, perhaps a legitimate gripe, as it finished 12-0. Yet the Utes finished behind the champion Florida Gators. This season, another team, perhaps another two teams, are going to have gripes. Perhaps these gripes will be legitimate, also.

Let’s say Cincinnati beats Florida in the Allstate Sugar Bowl, which I am most definitely not eliminating as a possibility. Does Cincinnati have a gripe about not being named national champion? Perhaps! My point is that we just do not know. At least one, and possibly two, teams will have done everything possible to stake claim to a shot at the national title. But, those teams will be sitting on the sidelines watching either Texas or Alabama add another championship to the mantle. It’s like being promised a shot at a promotion at work, yet not being given a realistic shot because someone else in the office has been there longer. You have done everything that was asked of you. But there you sit… in your little cubicle with a computer that doesn’t work half the time, while someone else gets a brand new office with a brand new computer and a significant raise. It makes you just throw your hands up in the air and wonder, “What do I have to do?”

You may say, “Well this is just one of those years.” Well, these years should not happen. If a team goes undefeated at this level, it should be given a chance to compete for a national championship. As long as Texas and the SEC winner went undefeated, no other team was going to have a chance. And that is just not right.
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The Best Game of THIS Weekend Debate – Shootout at the O-K (State) Corral!

October 30, 2009

Read Sports Geek’s argument and Loyal Homer’s arguments about the which game this weekend is the one that you CANNOT miss.



No matter the sport, some of the most entertaining games to watch are “shootouts” where offense dominates and it becomes a race to see which team can score the most points. If you love offense, then I have the game for you!

This Saturday, the BCS 14th ranked Cowboys of Oklahoma State play host to the BCS third ranked Texas Longhorns in a matchup that features two very explosive offenses. Texas, currently leading the nation in scoring with 41.9 points per game, has scored AT LEAST 34 points in every game of the season except one – the matchup against Oklahoma two weeks ago. On the other side of the field, Oklahoma State has been equally impressive with the sixth best points per game average in the country with 37.

High-powered offense is not the only reason to follow this game, though. This could very well be the last remaining game of the year with National Championship implications for BOTH teams until we get into the Conference Championship games at the end of the season.

Currently, both Texas and Oklahoma State are undefeated in the Big XII Conference, with this game serving as a potential tiebreaker to determine which team will ultimately play in the Big XII Championship game.

For Oklahoma State, a team that has only loss to this point in the season to 18th ranked Houston (a team that also has only one loss on its record), defeating third ranked Texas would launch the Cowboys right back into the national spotlight. It would most likely propel the ‘Boys into the top ten in the BCS rankings and would set the team up for a chance to play in the Big XII Championship game. Although teams like Boise State, TCU – and even Cincinnati or Iowa – are currently undefeated, Oklahoma State certainly warrants consideration for the National Championship if the team goes on to defeat Texas, then Oklahoma, and ultimately win the Big XII Conference.

Texas, on the other hand, controls its own destiny right now. Ranked third in the nation, Texas currently follows Alabama and Florida, both of whom are in the SEC in opposing divisions. If both of those teams win out the rest of the season, a meeting in the SEC Championship game is inevitable, clearing the way for Texas to take that final step up into one of the top two spots in the BCS. Oklahoma State presents Texas with its final “legitimate” hurdle of the season. With Central Florida, Baylor, Kansas, and Texas A&M remaining on Texas’ schedule, the team should be able to coast into the Big XII Championship with a victory over Oklahoma State.

The only missing element from this game is the presence of standout Oklahoma State wide receiver Dez Bryant, who was at one time considered a Heisman Trophy hopeful. Although the Cowboys have not missed a beat to this point offensively since losing Bryant to a season-ending suspension, his absence will certainly be felt in Stillwater this weekend. Even without Bryant, though, this should be a very entertaining matchup between two potent offenses.

Look for high-scoring, fast-paced, action-packed excitement from start to finish in this shootout at the O-K (State) Corral!

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The 2009 Heisman Trophy Inside Track Debate – It’s Tebow’s Season

August 14, 2009

Read Sports Geek’s argument that Colt McCoy is the Heisman frontrunner and Bleacher Fan’s argument that Sam Bradford is the Heisman frontrunner.

Kickoff to the 2009 college football season is less than three weeks away! It has been a long time since last year’s BCS Championship game! Every offseason seems long, but this year’s seems really long. Maybe it is because three high profile quarterbacks chose to return to school instead of chasing after the fame and fortune of the NFL. Those three profile quarterbacks will be profiled today as we debate who has the inside track to becoming this season’s Heisman Trophy winner. I believe that Tim Tebow is a step above Sam Bradford and Colt McCoy.

The Florida Gators are a consensus number one. They play an exciting style of football in the country’s best conference (sorry, Bleacher Fan). Depending on how the season shakes out, they are sure to be on national television virtually every week. Therefore, exposure is not a question and never has been, not when Tim Tebow and Chuck Norris are often used in the same joke sometimes. (You know you have all gotten those email forwards comparing the two with Tebow’s name being inserted in the place of Norris! If you haven’t gotten the email, here is a list of Tebow jokes! It is pretty funny.).

Tebow’s credentials speak for themselves. He won a national championship as a freshman and as a junior. As a sophomore, his team struggled somewhat with so many underclassmen on defense, but Tebow flourished, easily winning the Heisman trophy. He made a late charge last year, but Bradford was just having too strong of a season, as was McCoy.

This season, he is almost (thanks to Steve Spurrier or his director of football operations Jamie Spernois) a consensus all-SEC pre-season coach’s pick. Coming off a season in which he accounted for 42 touchdowns (30 passing and 12 receiving), how could you not rate him as the preseason favorite? Since January 11th, when he announced he was returning for his senior season, he was been perceived as one of, if not the, favorite to hold the trophy up in December. But, Tebow will tell you he did not come back for the Heisman. He did not come back for individual trophies and records. He came back for one and only one reason. He came back to win his third BCS Championship. If he wins a third national championship, and has an outstanding senior season, he has to be considered perhaps the greatest college football player ever. Perhaps that is a debate for early next year.

I know there are a lot of Tim Tebow haters out there. Some of them live in Athens, Georgia. Some of them live in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Heck, they are scattered all across the nation, as some feel Tebow gets too much love from the national media. But, love him or hate him, there really is not any question as to who the pre-season Heisman favorite is for the 2009 college football season. His numbers and his play completely back up that assessment.

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The 2009 College Football Most Important Game of the Season Debate – Red River Showdown

August 10, 2009

Read Sports Geek’s argument that Virginia Tech at Georgia Tech is the most important game of the season and Bleacher Fan’s argument that USC at Ohio State is the most important game .



Every year, there are big games in college football. There are games that get the people talking at work the week of the game. There are games that get The Sports Debates talking about as soon as possible. This week, we are going to take a look at a game that each of us the writers believes is important for various reasons. The game that I have chosen to label as the most important of the season is the annual Red River Rivalry between the Oklahoma Sooners and the Texas Longhorns that takes place the week of the Texas State Fair.

This year, the game will be played October 17th in Dallas. And there’s a decent chance that both teams will be undefeated going into that game. It will not be the first time, and it probably will not be the last time the game involves two undefeated teams. It was the case last year, when Texas knocked off then #1 Oklahoma 45-35.

This year’s contest promises to be the most important game of the season. In the preseason coaches poll released last Friday, Texas is ranked second and Oklahoma is ranked third. Both teams return Heisman trophy contenders in Longhorn quarterback Colt McCoy and Sooners quarterback, and reigning Heisman winner, Sam Bradford.

The winner of this game has an inside track to the conference championship game (and potential BCS berth) as the winner of the Big 12 South conference. The winner does not always win the division though. If you will recall from last year, Texas didn’t win the conference. I think we can all agree that Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma are a little ahead of the other contenders at the point, due to who they have returning at the skill positions. The winner of this game will have a leg up on the other in the race to the BCS Championship game. Anything less than a berth in the championship would have to be considered a disappointment for Texas or Oklahoma, right?

I also think it is a big game for Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops, who no longer deserves to be called “Big Game Bob.” He needs this one to help remove the stigma of people thinking Oklahoma can longer win the big game. Losing to Florida, West Virginia, and Boise State in BCS bowls the past three years have somewhat dampened his reputation. A win over an archrival would keep the fans and alumni happy and help get the media off his back. He is certainly not on the hot seat, but it is time for him to take his team to the top again. This could be the year.

Bleacher Fan and Sports Geek both have their reasons for choosing their games as the most important games. But when all is said and done, the battle in Texas is going to go a long way in charting the course for the rest of the college football season. It is a day that Loyal Homer is thoroughly looking forward to. I have a date with the recliner set up for that day!

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The Big East in the BCS Debate – No Guarantees for the Big East

July 14, 2009

Read the debate intro and Bleacher’s Fan’s argument that the Big East still deserves an automatic bid to a BCS bowl game.



This is sure to be a popular topic with our friends in the Northeast!

Sports Geek poses the question in today’s debate about whether or not the Big East is still deserving of its guaranteed BCS bid. I most definitely say NO!

Let’s take a look at last year (2008).

West Virginia came into the season as the team to beat, despite the fact that head coach Rich Rodriguez left for the supposedly greener pastures in Michigan. However, with the momentum from the 48-28 trouncing of Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl, and the return of Pat White, things were still looking up in Morgantown. (On a side note, does a victory over Oklahoma in a BCS game really mean anything these days?)

But the Mountaineers struggled all season, and limped to a 9-4 record with a loss to an 8-5 North Carolina team in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

I will give Cincinnati credit. They won the Big East by going 11-3 – even with a loss to an average Virginia Tech team in the Orange Bowl – and finished the season ranked in the top 20. Head coach Brian Kelly has that team on the rise, and Sports Geek and I can stake claim to witnessing Kelly dominate Division II football earlier this decade when he was coaching Grand Valley State. But, winning the Big East in football is like Memphis winning Conference USA in basketball or like beating your two-year-old sister in a game of Madden on PlayStation 3. What have you really accomplished?

I would discuss Pittsburgh some, but year in and year out – especially since Dave Wannstedt came back to “save” the program – they have been inconsistent showing they are not yet ready for the big stage. They couldn’t even fill up Heinz Field for the season opener against Bowling Green (who they lost to, by the way). Only 45,063 showed up for the season opener. For the record, “Ketchup Field” has a capacity of 65,050.

Truth be told, I think the Big East is still living off of just one good performance this entire decade, the 2006 Sugar Bowl. West Virginia knocked off heavy favorite Georgia 38-35 in Atlanta (it wasn’t in New Orleans that year due to Hurricane Katrina) behind outstanding performances from White and running back Steve Slaton.

In 2007, West Virginia actually had a shot to play for the national championship. All the Mountaineers had to do was beat rival Pitt in the Backyard Brawl, at home in Morgantown, and it was likely they would play in the BCS Championship game. But, with all the pressure on them, West Virginia folded and lost 13-9. If WVU wins that game, and was able to win the championship that year, we would not be debating this issue.

The fact is that the Big East isn’t ready for prime time and that’s obvious from their recent history. I’m not even sure enough people in Big East country even care, outside of Morgantown. As far as attendance goes for the entire conference, the numbers don’t lie. The average attendance at a Big East game in 2008 was 42,995, with West Virginia averaging 58,085 to lead the conference. Four schools (Louisville, Connecticut, Syracuse, and Cincinnati) averaged less than 40,000 fans at each game. Folks, that’s terrible, and borderline embarrassing.

The Big East is undeserving of a BCS bid, and I think everyone outside of the Northeast agrees with me.


The College World Series Debate – CWS… or should it be WCS!?

June 18, 2009

Read the debate intro and Sports Geek’s opinion.



Hello friends of The Sports Debates. Until the intro written by my colleague Bleacher Fan, did you even realize that the College World Series was going on? Any takers? Last call? Yeah that’s what I thought! Complete silence!!! So instead of calling it the CWS, let’s just call it the WCS!!!

The Who Cares Series!!!

I have a quick pop quiz for all of our educated readers. Who won the World Series in 2008? Who won the Super Bowl in 2008? Who won the BCS Championship in 2008? Who won March Madness in 2008?

Chances are good that you knew the answers to all four of those questions. But for those who didn’t know the answers… the Philadelphia Phillies won the World Series, the New York Giants won the Super Bowl, the LSU Tigers won the BCS Championship, and the Kansas Jayhawks won March Madness.

Now, here’s a tough question for you. Who won the College World Series in 2008? As a bonus, tell me the team that finished second in the College World Series. I’m waiting guys (key Jeopardy final question theme music). What is your answer?

What is?????????

I’ll bet you that Sports Geek doesn’t know the answer! Honestly, Sports Geek, did you know? I actually did know the answer because I live in the middle of SEC country. I’ll be honest though. Any other year and I wouldn’t have known. In last year’s CWS, in the battle of the Bulldogs, Fresno State defeated Georgia.

It’s too early to break down ratings for this year’s CWS, but last year, the CWS averaged a whopping 1.4 million viewers on ESPN and less than 1 million viewers on ESPN2. You know what the sad thing is? It was the highest rated College World Series ever!

Excuse me while I laugh!!! And this weekend, I will bet you that the U.S. Open in golf will draw at least 4 times as many viewers, and even more if Tiger Woods is in contention.

I’ll tell you while it is rated so low. Quite simply, there is no name recognition with the players. Can you name one player off of last year’s Fresno State team? I didn’t think so! It’s the same reason no one tunes in for the MLB Draft. The vast majority of college baseball games are not televised. Thus, it is harder for the regular John Doe sports fan to follow any of the teams. Mr. Doe doesn’t develop that “relationship” with the players and the team the way he would with a major league player and team.

Is the College World Series entertaining? To a degree… yes. But if I am flipping through the channels and I come across it, chances are I will keep on flipping!


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