The MLB Team Rebuilding Debate… Baseball is Bleeding and Something Must Be Done

March 25, 2010

Read the opposing argument from Babe Ruthless.

I cannot tell you how many times I have had a casual conversation with someone about baseball in general when someone says “The game just isn’t what it used to be” or “That was back in the good ole days.” What era or eras are they referring to? The great home run chase of 1998, which is one of my fondest memories growing up? The decade of dominance by the Big Red Machine in the 1970s? The pre-steroid era in general? Any of those three would suffice as “the good ole days” by some, but what is certain is that baseball is not near the top of its game.

Major League Baseball has had its doors blown off by the NFL in terms of popularity. As a lifelong baseball fan, that is disturbing. Granted there are many good things going on in baseball, and there are many new ways to produce revenue for teams that were simply not technologically possible in “the good ole days.” Nevertheless, there are a few disturbing trends going on with baseball.

During the 2009 MLB season, attendance at games was down six percent. I am well aware of how bad the economy was last year. But many teams were down a whopping 20 percent during the 2009 season. That is a significant loss of revenue for teams, especially those in smaller markets where money made at the gate supplies a huge part of the revenue stream. Nearly all of the teams promoted ticket specials and food discounts to try and get people out to the ballpark. As a whole, it really was not that effective.

Ratings for the 2009 season declined as a whole. FOX declined over ten percent for its Saturday afternoon games. The economy cannot be blamed for this because it costs absolutely nothing to watch baseball on cable or satellite (minus the obvious of paying your monthly cable or satellite bill). It boilds down to choice.

And year after year the same teams are at the top of the heap in baseball. Every year, all we hear about are the Yankees and the Red Sox. At times, it is almost as if no other teams exist. Yes, I know they spend the money to get the best product on the field. Obviously, they have the resources. But when there is a $165 million difference between the highest payroll (Yankees) and the lowest payroll (the Florida Marlins), something is wrong. One of the NFL’s strongest assets is parity. Teams can go from last place one season to winning the division the following season. High draft picks help the teams in this rebuilding process. But if high draft picks truly were supposed to help turn a team around in baseball, why haven’t the Nationals finished any higher than fourth in the National League East in the past five years?

All of these are disturbing trends and something needs to be down to level the playing field. I think parity between teams will help bring more people back to the game. Let’s face it. Baseball lost a lot of fans with the 1994 strike, and by the time the sport starting getting some of its fans back allegations of steroid use surfaced – and any progress that was made came crashing down. Also, twenty years ago, who would have ever put “congressional hearing” and “baseball” in the same sentence?

I do not know what the answers are. I just know it is so tough for teams at the bottom to knock off the teams at the top. The odds are stacked against them before they even take the field. How are teams supposed to rebuild when the Nationals give serious thought to not drafting Stephen Strasburg because they do not think they can sign him?

I love the game of baseball. But it is tough to rebuild in the sport right now. If you are a fan of an annual bottom dweller (Nationals, Orioles, etc.), I hate it for you, too. Because you’re going to be there awhile!

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The Does Spring Training ACTUALLY Mean Anything Debate – Foundations Are Built In Spring

March 12, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

Spring Training. I think part of the reason this has become an issue is because the length of the entire baseball season, and that the possibility of the World Series being played in November has quickly become a reality and almost a certainty every year. Thus, why not cut into Spring Training to eliminate that possibility? Hmmm let’s take a look at the pros and cons of Spring Training

Bleacher Fan fully questions the length of Spring Training. An analogy is made comparing Spring Training to taking the practice SAT (which I actually took once back in the day) in preparation for the real SAT. Some fans have made the comparison between preseason football and Spring Training, thought Bleacher Fan argues that it really is not a fair comparison. I happen to agree with that point, and actually, so does Babe Ruthless. You really cannot compare the two. While it’s true that starters play sparingly in at least two of the preseason games, baseball often has split squad games in Spring Training where half the team stays at home while the other half of the team loads up on the chartered Greyhound and travels across the state. It’s really hard to get a feel for how a team will do record-wise when players are so scattered.

Babe Ruthless does not even bother touching wins and losses in Spring Training, and that is a good choice because it’s a dead end road for many of the reasons Bleacher Fan stated. What Spring Training does do, according to Babe Ruthless, is build team camaraderie and chemistry (hmmm, haven’t we touched on team chemistry before on TSD?) It’s a chance for new free agents to get used to his new teammates on the field. I also fully remember the Rays-Yankees example Babe highlights. After watching countless replays of it, I remember thinking, “Wow, those kids aren’t backing down.” They carried that attitude all the way to an American League pennant. The tone of that season was set in Spring Training.

I am siding with Babe Ruthless on this debate because I was not convinced by Bleacher Fan’s argument. We can all agree that wins and losses are not important at all in Spring Training. I consider myself a huge Braves fan, but I couldn’t tell anyone with certainty what their record is so far this Spring. But I can tell you individual stories about how some of the players have performed and how some of the new guys have fit in. It’s a time for the teams to evaluate the potential of the rookies. That is what Spring Training is for, in essence. Like Babe Ruthless wrote, it is a time to build cohesiveness. It is a time to lay the groundwork for the season. It is a time to work on fundamentals and, often times, to go over new signs – especially with the ever-changing rosters of each team.

It is also important to for hitters to get their timing down and for pitchers to build up their arm strength. If you threw pitchers right into the fire without stretching their arm out over the course of Spring Training, then even more pitchers would have to pay a visit to Dr. James Andrews.

Spring Training is definitely relevant and is a necessary grind in order to get ready for the grueling 162 game season.

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The Does Spring Training ACTUALLY Mean Anything Debate – The Importance of Spring Training

March 11, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

As you can tell, everyone here at The Sports Debates world headquarters is getting really excited about the start of the 2010 baseball season. We’ll have our fix on March Madness in the next couple of weeks, obviously. But for the next several months, Major League Baseball will be a fixture on this site in the coming months, so enjoy! Today, we’re going to look at the relevance of Spring training and how important it really is!

Most of the teams had their first Spring training workouts around February 20. Opening Day is on April 4 this year, with the majority of the teams beginning on April 5. You can do the math but my elementary mathematical skills learned in the great state of Georgia tell me that’s about six weeks of workouts to get ready for the season. This is really starting to become an issue.

It’s become an issue in the NFL, and it’s one The Sports Debates tackled back in August. Even a panel formed by the USA Today admits it’s a relevant discussion. The panel discussed, among other things, the pros and cons of the length of Spring training.

Today is March 11, and teams have been participating in Spring training games for about two weeks now. Here are the current standings for both the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League. Obviously, there are pros and cons to both sides, and the two debators will touch on them in their arguments. I had every intention of listing some of these thoughts here in the intro. But, on second thought, I’m just going to leave it open-ended and see where Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless go with this.

Babe Ruthless will argue that Spring training does mean something and that often times it does provide an indicator as to how that particular team will do. Bleacher Fan, on the other hand, will argue that Spring training really means very little and that it provides absolutely no clear indication of how a team’s season will play out.

Feel free to share some of your Spring training stories with the rest of the world. Have you been to Spring training game before? In your opinion, what has the atmosphere like? Personally, I have never been to Spring training before, but it’s something I would certainly love to do.

Okay, here we are in the top of the first inning. The judge says it’s time for the first pitch.

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The Does Spring Training ACTUALLY Mean Anything Debate – Spring Training’s Value is Visions of the Future

March 11, 2010

Read the opposing argument from Bleacher Fan.

The pop of the mitt and the crack of the bat are music to the ears of seam-heads like me. Baseball’s slogan – “I Live For This” – could not more accurately describe my love for America’s pastime. I check the 2010 countdown to the start of the season at MLB.com daily, just as a reminder of how close we are to the return of the greatest game on earth. Until then, I have Spring Training games. Flipping through the channels and discovering a Cactus League or Grapefruit League game gives me that feeling you get when you put on a pair of old pants and find a $20 bill in the pocket. Spring Training is terrific. It signals the return of warmer weather, fantasy baseball, and of course great baseball debates. Today, the Bleacher Fan and I duke it out over the importance of Spring Training – does it really mean anything?

Of course it does. Spring Training holds a lot of meaning and value, but not in the traditional sense and measurements in wins and rankings. I do not pretend that at the end of Spring Training the two teams with the best record can be declared the best two teams entering the regular season. But preseason games give the baseball world its first glimpse of what a team is going to look like during the regular season. It gives teams an opportunity to build chemistry, construct the best lineup, and assemble a winning rotation. While the W’s and L’s of Spring Training may not indicate who is going to win a Cy Young Award, preseason play certainly identifies contenders. It lets teams know which players and clubs have improved and should be considered serious competitors in the season to come. This improvement cannot be measured with a box score or any form of sabermetrics. Instead it is measured in moments.

When a veteran shortstop, rookie second baseman, and free agent acquisition first baseman connect for a liquid smooth 6-4-3 double play, Spring Training displays character and cohesiveness. When a camp invitee steps up late in the ninth inning with a walk-off shot, and wins a spot in the batting order, Spring Training shows its worth in terms of identifying potential. When a touted rookie pitcher falls apart against a real lineup, Spring Training demonstrates its value to differentiate between pretender and contender. These are defining moments that simply cannot exist, without preseason ball.

Spring Training is also the place where teams can make a statement. Take the 2008 Tampa Bay Rays for example. Their journey to the World Series started with a statement they made in the Spring Training. Many felt this team was good, but the fact that they could win the AL East was a shocker to most. However, for those who followed the team during Spring Training it was clear that the Rays were different that preseason. They were not going to be bullied by the big boys in the AL East, specifically the Yankees. During a Spring Training game between the two clubs Elliot Johnson, a backup second baseman for the Rays, ran over the Yankees prospect catcher, Francisco Cervelli, on a play at home plate. Cervelli broke his wrist in the collision, but it should be noted that he hung onto the ball for the out. This was not the first collision of the preseason for the Rays, as outfielder Carl Crawford barreled over the catcher in another preseason game against the Houston Astros earlier that week. Several sports analysts pointed out that the Rays were trying to prove a point, that they would not quietly settle for being just another good club with a lot of potential. During the very next game, Yankees first baseman Shelley Duncan performed a hard slide into Rays second baseman Akinori Iwamura. The Rays cast off their typically docile demeanor and engaged in a bench clearing brawl, demonstrating the first signs of life in a soon to be World Series contending club. For the Rays, Spring Training was crucially important. It set the tone for the season and post season. Its value translates simple wins and losses into momentum and motivation.

Many detractors attempt to link Spring Training games to the NFL’s preseason, but the two can not be compared. Even a casual NFL fan is capable of questioning the need and validity of preseason football. Some of the best athletes, the stars average working stiffs pay to see play, barely put in four full quarters of play throughout the NFL’s preseason. But Spring Training games are different. Most MLB teams will play more than 30 spring training games, while NFL teams play just four games. It would be easy to conclude that because both leagues participate in a month’s worth of preseason play that the two are comparable, but that just isn’t so. Even megastars like Manny Ramirez, Albert Pujols, and Derek Jeter can log some pretty significant playing time throughout a month worth of games. Comparing the NFL preseason to MLB Spring Training would be like comparing apples to oranges, penguins to parakeets, or Ozzie Guillen to Oprah – they just aren’t the same.

Not convinced? Consider this. If the NFL cut all of its preseason games it would force teams to commit to new plays and schemes without ever testing them against true opponents. Similarly, football teams would have to decide on position battles and roster spots based at training camp. This would certainly be an unenviable position and a nightmare for most coaches, but it could be survived. If roles were reversed and MLB teams were forced to jump straight to the regular season it would be a catastrophe of epic proportions. Can you imagine if the only work pitchers got before the regular season was batting practice and simulated games? Or what if the only live pitching batters faced was from their teams own roster? The resulting poor quality of play would be so appalling that the sport’s appeal would be immeasurably impacted for the worse.

Spring Training has meaning, even if a team doesn’t win a single game. Each and every pitch – every single at bat – is important as it tells of a player’s ability. Spring Training’s measurement cannot be limited to wins and losses, but in moments of success, setbacks, and growth.

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The HGH Testing in the Minor Leagues Debate – A Minor Solution to a Major Problem

March 5, 2010

Read the opposing arguments by Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

Two different sets of three letters together bring frustration into the minds of baseball followers and those who work in some aspect of the game. They are ‘PED’ (performance-enhancing drugs) and ‘HGH’ (human growth hormone). Major League Baseball is trying to find the best way to clean up the game, but in today’s innovative society it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so. That brings us to our debate, which centered on the question of whether baseball should begin testing at the major league level or whether testing should begin in the minor leagues.

Babe Ruthless explains that testing in the majors right away is a knee-jerk reaction. The Babe also argues that using HGH really does not provide that big of an advantage to the player and that it actually has a high level of risk. It is suggested that baseball move forward with caution, as the act of testing HGH through blood samples is not “universally seen as trustworthy.”

Bleacher Fan, meanwhile, makes an interesting analogy comparing the implementation of HGH testing at the major league level to the act of monitoring one’s speed behind the wheel with a radar gun. It is a fair analogy, and it is highlighted that misplaced attention, foolish resistance, and fan opinion all back up the thought that testing should begin at the major league level now.

Another interesting point was brought up by Bleacher Fan. If you aren’t familiar with Dr. Anthony Galea, let me give you a quick run-through. Dr. Galea is a sports physician who is known for using a blood-spinning technique designed to speed recovery from injuries, and who is currently being investigated by the FBI for selling an unapproved drug to athletes – Actovegin. Besides the players mentioned by Bleacher Fan, athletes from other sports have visited him, including Tiger Woods. All have denied any wrongdoing by visiting Dr. Galea, or have denied receiving anything illegal from him, but keep in mind we are in a time where any suggestion of ANY type of illegal or immoral activity brings outrage and skepticism from fans. This applies to baseball players and it certainly applies to Tiger Woods.

The fact that this was brought up in the debate is what leads me to name Bleacher Fan the winner. The uncertainty regarding the allegations against Dr. Galea hangs over the minds of many baseball fans, including me. The mere mention of “baseball players” and “illegal drugs” in the same sentence raises an eyebrow, and fair or not, that is the perception of many out there. When I first saw the stories on Dr. Galea with Jose Reyes and Carlos Beltran, I immediately linked them to illegal activity in my mind. That is the thought process of many fans right now. It is “guilt by association”, and we need to get away from that frame of mind.

We are at a time where everyone assumes the worst about PEDs and HGH, and I see no valid reason for baseball to hold back the testing of HGH as soon as possible. These allegations have to stop and this era of uncertainty in the game of baseball has to be put in the distant past NOW. Testing for human growth hormone NOW, on the major league level, is a way to help speed up that process.

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The Bad Team with an MVP Player Debate – MVP… No Matter What

October 1, 2009

Read the debate intro and Bleacher Fan’s argument that the MVP shouldn’t come from a losing team.



As the 2009 MLB regular season winds down, the Sports Debates is taking a look at postseason awards. Hey, we have to with all of the playoff berths all but clinched! We are not declaring who we think should win various awards, though. Next week, stay tuned for a debate on whether or not a reliever should be eligible to win the Cy Young Award. For today, as Sports Geek stated in the intro, we are debating whether or not the Most Valuable Player can come from a losing team. I believe that an MVP can come from a losing team.

There have been examples other than the one Sports Geek used in the intro. In 2006, Ryan Howard, who played on a Philadelphia Phillies team that did not make it to the playoffs, won the MVP award over St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols, who played on a team that made the playoffs and eventually won the World Series. It caused quite a stir at the time when Pujols said, “I see it this way… someone who doesn’t take his team to the playoffs doesn’t deserve to win the MVP.”

Pujols has since recanted that statement.

When voters are filling out their ballot, they are told on the ballot to consider the following:

  • Actual value of a player to his team, that is, strength of offense and defense
  • Number of games played
  • General character, disposition, loyalty, and effort

Nowhere does it say that the record of the team should come into play.

Valuable” means, in the context of this situation, that player has “considerable use, service, or importance.” Voters obviously agreed that Andre Dawson was of “considerable use, service, or importance” in 1987, much the same way voters agreed that Howard met the same requirements in 2006. The record of the team had no relevance then, and it should not now.

Let me give an example from a different industry… the movie industry. When Academy Award voters are voting for Best Actor, they do not vote for the best actor of the top grossing movie of the year. They vote for whom they think had the best acting performance of the year. This is often why Oscar winners often come from smaller, independent movies rather than large, major studio films. It is obviously a different industry, but I use the example to portray that the thinking is along the same lines.

Using 2009 as an example, is Minnesota Twins catcher Joe Mauer any less valuable to his team than someone like Yankees shortstop Derek Jeter just because the Twins are likely not going to make the playoffs and the Yankees are going to make it? I do not think so!

Playoffs? Playoffs? Are You kidding me? You wanna talk to me about playoffs? No, talk to me about individual performance. Talk about how valuable a player is to a team. Talk about that, and then decide who the Most Valuable Player in the league is every year!

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