The 2010 NCAAB Player of the Year Debate – Contenders Cannot Scale the Wall

March 12, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Loyal Homer and Bleacher Fan.

It sure is easy to hand Ohio State’s Evan Turner the college basketball national Player of the Year award (especially after Friday’s game-winner), isn’t it? But, if Bleacher Fan is unable to convince anyone of Evan Turner’s greatness, a few sentences of accolades won’t cut it here. The point is, Turner is a great player who had a great season. But he is NOT the ONLY player in college basketball to have a great season – no matter what the talking faces on ESPN and CBS say. While Turner fills up a stat sheet, Kentucky’s John Wall fills up the win column, and is the straw that stirs the drink on a sure-fire number one seed next week.

While Turner’s stats are nice, John Wall has amassed some excellent stats this season as well. He is averaging just under 17 points per game, four rebounds (not bad for a six-foot something guard), and over six assists per game. While he shoots 46 percent from the field, his 33 percent clip from behind the 3 point line is solid, as is his 78 percent accuracy from the free throw line.

Oh, and he’s a 19-year-old freshman in college and the point guard on arguably the best team in the entire country.

Wall’s stats are solid, but his work ethic is too, by evidence of his willingness to use his amazing speed at both ends of the floor. Yes, that’s right, John Wall plays defense. Getting technical for a moment, there is a reason coach’s recruit speed. Wall’s quick lateral movement on the perimeter makes it very difficult to turn the corner on him on a pick and roll, and very hard to beat him back in transition. Going the other direction, Wall is an excellent finisher around the basket in the unlikely event he is not the first person to reach it due to his speed.

Wall makes the other players on the floor better in a way Evan Turner cannot. While Turner is an ISO player for Ohio State – a skill that will serve him well at the next level, especially – Wall makes other players better… and here’s what I mean. It’s not just the direct, easy-to-see stat line where it is super obvious that a player is good for a team based on the number of assists they log. John Wall does not always get the most assists in a game. Often he will make the right pass to start a ball swing to the opposite side of the floor, resulting in a wide open three point shot attempt or an easy entry pass into the post for a high percentage shot. Those types of plays do not show up in the stat line, but they perfectly describe the impact a player like John Wall has on a team.

Wall’s speed and position – point guard – also translate well into a natural leadership role, even for a youngster. Leadership breeds confidence – and confidence breeds clutch shots.

Perhaps the most critical and difficult to replicate aspect of Wall’s game is his ability to make the big play when it matters the most. Wall’s game is not devoted solely to what shots or passes he makes, it is devoted in large part to when he makes them. In short, John Wall is clutch… and not just one time, but many times during the course of the season. Whether it’s a last second layup or a clutch jump shot, Wall does not shy away from the spotlight. He has proven that he is able to make the play when the most is on the line.

Of course Kentucky is a deeper team than Ohio State. Wall definitely has more players with more skills around him that Turner does. Though Wall may not fill up a stat sheet like Turner does, he fills up the coach’s checklist, the win column… and the stat sheet, too.

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The 2010 NCAAB Player of the Year Debate – The Naismith Award Belongs to the Buckeyes’ Head-Turner

March 12, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Sports Geek and Loyal Homer.

The Naismith Award equals the NCAA Basketball Player of the Year award.

The NCAA Basketball Player of the Year equals the best player in college basketball for 2010.

The best player in college basketball for 2010 equals Evan Turner.

Statistically speaking, the 21-year old guard from Ohio State is the total package. Evan Turner, who is practically a walking double-double, averages 19.5 points and 9.4 rebounds per game (both of which are FAR superior averages when compared to Turner’s toughest competition for the Naismith Award, John Wall). In addition to his Big Ten leading point and rebound average, Turner also provides 5.8 assists per game (putting him at second in the Big Ten in that category).

On both offense and defense, Turner’s presence on the court demands full and constant attention from his opponents. He possesses surprising speed for his size, 6-feet 7-inches and 210 lbs, which allows him to be successful at nearly every position on the court.

While Turner’s statistics make an extremely strong case for him as the Player of the Year, it was actually his time OFF the court which demonstrated just how important and impactful Evan Turner has become.

After suffering several broken vertebrae during a game in early December, Turner was forced to miss six games before he could return to the court. At the point when Turner suffered that injury, the Buckeyes were sitting at 7-1, but during the six-game period where Turner was unavailable, they played to a disappointing 3-3 record with losses coming against Wisconsin, Michigan, and Butler. The Buckeyes fell to 0-2 in the Big Ten, and 10-4 overall.

Upon his return, the Buckeyes found themselves once again rolling through their competition, as they would go on to win 14 of their last 17 games and finish on top of the Big Ten with a conference record of 14-4.

As good as Turner’s supporting cast of John Diebler, David Lighty, Dallas Lauderdale, and William Buford are, their performance without Turner on the floor was very telling. During their loss against Butler, they were out-rebounded by the Bulldogs 45-32 (Turner’s 10 rebound average would have surely made a difference). Two weeks later in their loss to Wisconsin, the Buckeyes went 14 of 43 from the field, and tallied only 43 total points in the game (Turner’s 20 points per game would have made a HUGE difference in that performance). Finally, when they lost to Michigan four days after their game against the Badgers, Ohio State once again turned in a terrible second-half performance, shooting only 28 percent from the floor during the final twenty minutes of play (they were only 36.9 percent shooting overall that night).

Simply put, the Buckeyes would be a middle-of-the-pack team without Evan Turner, who is like the little Dutch boy plugging leaks in the dyke. His versatility allows him to fill any role that is needed on the court at any time, whether that position is point guard, shooting guard, forward, or anything else that may be required at a moment’s notice.

Had he not been able to return to play for Ohio State, they would have entered the Big Ten conference tournament with a bubble-team’s hope for reaching March Madness, and an NIT berth as a more realistic expectation. Instead, Evan Turner has almost single-handedly propelled the 24-7 Buckeyes into very serious consideration for a top seed in the national tournament (a case helped even more by the Syracuse loss in the early rounds of the Big East tournament).

There is simply not another player in the country as effective offensively AND defensively as Turner, who possesses the best all-around skills in the game today. It doesn’t matter what it is called – best player, player of the year, most valuable player – Evan Turner is the only logical choice for the Naismith Award in 2010.

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The 2010 NCAAB Player of the Year Debate – Cousins is the Real Kentucky Star

March 12, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Sports Geek and Bleacher Fan.

Obviously, Evan Turner’s journey has been well documented, and if you want more on Mr. Turner, read Bleacher Fan’s argument. John Wall has been heavily hyped from the start of the season, and he has helped lead Kentucky to an outstanding season and a likely #1 seed in the NCAA tournament. He is being highlighted by Sports Geek. However, I’= am going to step outside the box a bit and go a different direction. I believe that Wall’s teammate, DeMarcus Cousins, deserves serious consideration for college basketball’s Player of the Year.

Cousins, who was also heavily hyped himself coming into the season, originally was committed to Memphis, but when coach John Calipari left Memphis for Lexington, Cousins decided to join him in Wildcat Nation. I will admit that I am always a little partial to big guys over guards, and that is the main reason I am siding with Cousins over his teammate. It is a matter of preference, and it was actually addressed in an SEC teleconference this past Monday.

Cousins, who is a bulky 6-feet 11-inches and 270 pounds, is one of two SEC players averaging a double-double (Mississippi State’s Jarvis Varnado is the other). He is averaging 15.9 points per game with 10.1 rebounds per game and has had 18 double-doubles to this point. Not to mention that fact that he is fifth in the league in blocks at just under two per game, even though in every Kentucky game I have watched he has had a far greater impact on opposing shots than the numbers might indicate. On offense he is often impossible to guard. As Arkansas head coach John Pelfrey said, “Physically, one man can’t guard him.”

Just this week, Cousins was named to the all-conference SEC team, and was named SEC freshman of the year… and we can count on more hardware on the national level soon. This was not at all unexpected. In fact, many mock drafts have him being a high lottery pick in the 2010 NBA draft if he declares for the draft, as expected.

I am not going to pretend that I am a big fan of Calipari, because I am not. But he deserves some credit for molding this young team into a favorite for the national championship. Cousins is a huge part of that. Just have to ask yourself who is more valuable to the team, Wall or Cousins? Wall gets all the glitz and glamour because he plays the point guard position, but Cousins has a chance to dominate the game in the paint – and it is usually a chance he takes advantage of. If he gets in foul trouble, Kentucky is an entirely different team. Opposing teams gain an advantage in the paint when driving to the hole and also when crashing the boards. That is what makes him more important.

Solid cases can be made for Wall and Turner. But Cousins has come on strong down the stretch and deserves to be named the national Player of the Year.

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The Does Spring Training ACTUALLY Mean Anything Debate – Foundations Are Built In Spring

March 12, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

Spring Training. I think part of the reason this has become an issue is because the length of the entire baseball season, and that the possibility of the World Series being played in November has quickly become a reality and almost a certainty every year. Thus, why not cut into Spring Training to eliminate that possibility? Hmmm let’s take a look at the pros and cons of Spring Training

Bleacher Fan fully questions the length of Spring Training. An analogy is made comparing Spring Training to taking the practice SAT (which I actually took once back in the day) in preparation for the real SAT. Some fans have made the comparison between preseason football and Spring Training, thought Bleacher Fan argues that it really is not a fair comparison. I happen to agree with that point, and actually, so does Babe Ruthless. You really cannot compare the two. While it’s true that starters play sparingly in at least two of the preseason games, baseball often has split squad games in Spring Training where half the team stays at home while the other half of the team loads up on the chartered Greyhound and travels across the state. It’s really hard to get a feel for how a team will do record-wise when players are so scattered.

Babe Ruthless does not even bother touching wins and losses in Spring Training, and that is a good choice because it’s a dead end road for many of the reasons Bleacher Fan stated. What Spring Training does do, according to Babe Ruthless, is build team camaraderie and chemistry (hmmm, haven’t we touched on team chemistry before on TSD?) It’s a chance for new free agents to get used to his new teammates on the field. I also fully remember the Rays-Yankees example Babe highlights. After watching countless replays of it, I remember thinking, “Wow, those kids aren’t backing down.” They carried that attitude all the way to an American League pennant. The tone of that season was set in Spring Training.

I am siding with Babe Ruthless on this debate because I was not convinced by Bleacher Fan’s argument. We can all agree that wins and losses are not important at all in Spring Training. I consider myself a huge Braves fan, but I couldn’t tell anyone with certainty what their record is so far this Spring. But I can tell you individual stories about how some of the players have performed and how some of the new guys have fit in. It’s a time for the teams to evaluate the potential of the rookies. That is what Spring Training is for, in essence. Like Babe Ruthless wrote, it is a time to build cohesiveness. It is a time to lay the groundwork for the season. It is a time to work on fundamentals and, often times, to go over new signs – especially with the ever-changing rosters of each team.

It is also important to for hitters to get their timing down and for pitchers to build up their arm strength. If you threw pitchers right into the fire without stretching their arm out over the course of Spring Training, then even more pitchers would have to pay a visit to Dr. James Andrews.

Spring Training is definitely relevant and is a necessary grind in order to get ready for the grueling 162 game season.

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The Does Spring Training ACTUALLY Mean Anything Debate – The Importance of Spring Training

March 11, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

As you can tell, everyone here at The Sports Debates world headquarters is getting really excited about the start of the 2010 baseball season. We’ll have our fix on March Madness in the next couple of weeks, obviously. But for the next several months, Major League Baseball will be a fixture on this site in the coming months, so enjoy! Today, we’re going to look at the relevance of Spring training and how important it really is!

Most of the teams had their first Spring training workouts around February 20. Opening Day is on April 4 this year, with the majority of the teams beginning on April 5. You can do the math but my elementary mathematical skills learned in the great state of Georgia tell me that’s about six weeks of workouts to get ready for the season. This is really starting to become an issue.

It’s become an issue in the NFL, and it’s one The Sports Debates tackled back in August. Even a panel formed by the USA Today admits it’s a relevant discussion. The panel discussed, among other things, the pros and cons of the length of Spring training.

Today is March 11, and teams have been participating in Spring training games for about two weeks now. Here are the current standings for both the Cactus League and the Grapefruit League. Obviously, there are pros and cons to both sides, and the two debators will touch on them in their arguments. I had every intention of listing some of these thoughts here in the intro. But, on second thought, I’m just going to leave it open-ended and see where Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless go with this.

Babe Ruthless will argue that Spring training does mean something and that often times it does provide an indicator as to how that particular team will do. Bleacher Fan, on the other hand, will argue that Spring training really means very little and that it provides absolutely no clear indication of how a team’s season will play out.

Feel free to share some of your Spring training stories with the rest of the world. Have you been to Spring training game before? In your opinion, what has the atmosphere like? Personally, I have never been to Spring training before, but it’s something I would certainly love to do.

Okay, here we are in the top of the first inning. The judge says it’s time for the first pitch.

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The Does Spring Training ACTUALLY Mean Anything Debate – Spring Training’s Value is Visions of the Future

March 11, 2010

Read the opposing argument from Bleacher Fan.

The pop of the mitt and the crack of the bat are music to the ears of seam-heads like me. Baseball’s slogan – “I Live For This” – could not more accurately describe my love for America’s pastime. I check the 2010 countdown to the start of the season at MLB.com daily, just as a reminder of how close we are to the return of the greatest game on earth. Until then, I have Spring Training games. Flipping through the channels and discovering a Cactus League or Grapefruit League game gives me that feeling you get when you put on a pair of old pants and find a $20 bill in the pocket. Spring Training is terrific. It signals the return of warmer weather, fantasy baseball, and of course great baseball debates. Today, the Bleacher Fan and I duke it out over the importance of Spring Training – does it really mean anything?

Of course it does. Spring Training holds a lot of meaning and value, but not in the traditional sense and measurements in wins and rankings. I do not pretend that at the end of Spring Training the two teams with the best record can be declared the best two teams entering the regular season. But preseason games give the baseball world its first glimpse of what a team is going to look like during the regular season. It gives teams an opportunity to build chemistry, construct the best lineup, and assemble a winning rotation. While the W’s and L’s of Spring Training may not indicate who is going to win a Cy Young Award, preseason play certainly identifies contenders. It lets teams know which players and clubs have improved and should be considered serious competitors in the season to come. This improvement cannot be measured with a box score or any form of sabermetrics. Instead it is measured in moments.

When a veteran shortstop, rookie second baseman, and free agent acquisition first baseman connect for a liquid smooth 6-4-3 double play, Spring Training displays character and cohesiveness. When a camp invitee steps up late in the ninth inning with a walk-off shot, and wins a spot in the batting order, Spring Training shows its worth in terms of identifying potential. When a touted rookie pitcher falls apart against a real lineup, Spring Training demonstrates its value to differentiate between pretender and contender. These are defining moments that simply cannot exist, without preseason ball.

Spring Training is also the place where teams can make a statement. Take the 2008 Tampa Bay Rays for example. Their journey to the World Series started with a statement they made in the Spring Training. Many felt this team was good, but the fact that they could win the AL East was a shocker to most. However, for those who followed the team during Spring Training it was clear that the Rays were different that preseason. They were not going to be bullied by the big boys in the AL East, specifically the Yankees. During a Spring Training game between the two clubs Elliot Johnson, a backup second baseman for the Rays, ran over the Yankees prospect catcher, Francisco Cervelli, on a play at home plate. Cervelli broke his wrist in the collision, but it should be noted that he hung onto the ball for the out. This was not the first collision of the preseason for the Rays, as outfielder Carl Crawford barreled over the catcher in another preseason game against the Houston Astros earlier that week. Several sports analysts pointed out that the Rays were trying to prove a point, that they would not quietly settle for being just another good club with a lot of potential. During the very next game, Yankees first baseman Shelley Duncan performed a hard slide into Rays second baseman Akinori Iwamura. The Rays cast off their typically docile demeanor and engaged in a bench clearing brawl, demonstrating the first signs of life in a soon to be World Series contending club. For the Rays, Spring Training was crucially important. It set the tone for the season and post season. Its value translates simple wins and losses into momentum and motivation.

Many detractors attempt to link Spring Training games to the NFL’s preseason, but the two can not be compared. Even a casual NFL fan is capable of questioning the need and validity of preseason football. Some of the best athletes, the stars average working stiffs pay to see play, barely put in four full quarters of play throughout the NFL’s preseason. But Spring Training games are different. Most MLB teams will play more than 30 spring training games, while NFL teams play just four games. It would be easy to conclude that because both leagues participate in a month’s worth of preseason play that the two are comparable, but that just isn’t so. Even megastars like Manny Ramirez, Albert Pujols, and Derek Jeter can log some pretty significant playing time throughout a month worth of games. Comparing the NFL preseason to MLB Spring Training would be like comparing apples to oranges, penguins to parakeets, or Ozzie Guillen to Oprah – they just aren’t the same.

Not convinced? Consider this. If the NFL cut all of its preseason games it would force teams to commit to new plays and schemes without ever testing them against true opponents. Similarly, football teams would have to decide on position battles and roster spots based at training camp. This would certainly be an unenviable position and a nightmare for most coaches, but it could be survived. If roles were reversed and MLB teams were forced to jump straight to the regular season it would be a catastrophe of epic proportions. Can you imagine if the only work pitchers got before the regular season was batting practice and simulated games? Or what if the only live pitching batters faced was from their teams own roster? The resulting poor quality of play would be so appalling that the sport’s appeal would be immeasurably impacted for the worse.

Spring Training has meaning, even if a team doesn’t win a single game. Each and every pitch – every single at bat – is important as it tells of a player’s ability. Spring Training’s measurement cannot be limited to wins and losses, but in moments of success, setbacks, and growth.

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The Does Spring Training ACTUALLY Mean Anything Debate – I’ll Take Preseason Football Any Day Over THIS!

March 11, 2010

Read the opposing argument from Babe Ruthless.

How do you add to the tedium of an already exhausting 162-game season? It’s simple – you schedule an additional 25 to 30 meaningless games to be played before it all even begins. It is the ultimate exercise in futility!

I know, I know! You have to evaluate the talent you have on your roster, test the game-readiness of your players, and help your players get ready for the rigors of a full season… blah, blah, blah. The reality is that could be accomplished in MUCH less time.

Fans complain about the waste of time that is a four-game preseason in the NFL, but baseball’s preseason is nearly twice as long as that of the NFL’s REGULAR season… and what does it prove? Does a major league manager really need 30 games over a full month to determine whether he should pitch a guy in the fourth or fifth spot of his rotation?!

If you want to scrimmage, then by all means scrimmage. I absolutely appreciate the value in getting players on the field against other (different) players. I know that batting against a pitching machine is entirely different from batting against a human being, and I understand the need to have your hitters stand in the box against a variety of pitching styles before the games actually count. Don’t bother keeping stats, though, and DEFINITELY don’t report to me who won the “game.” That has about as much REAL LIFE value as Monopoly money. This is PRACTICE, and nothing more.

Would you apply to a college with your PRACTICE SAT scores? Of course not, because they hold no REAL value and the universities understand that a PRACTICE SAT is not the same thing as the ACTUAL SAT. I am not saying that the practice SATs are a waste of time, nor am I advocating that a student should not take them to prepare for the real SATs. However, I can’t think of a single person who would recommend you take the practice SATs 30 times before trying your hand at the real thing. There is only so much that can be gained from practice and simulation, no matter how “realistic” that simulation may be.

With that thought in mind, the real joke about Spring Training is that the games aren’t even genuine simulations of regular season play. At least in football they ATTEMPT to keep the starters together and on the field for a period of time in every game. Between intra-squad and split-squad games, where the team literally fractions into mini teams either to play with other split-squads, or to play with themselves (pun intended), no real stock can be put into the outcomes of these bogus situations. Does it matter if you’re single-A ball shortstop and your big-league second baseman hook up on a double-play during an intra-squad game where your own triple-A catcher grounds a fastball thrown by your own double-A middle reliever?

All of this adds up to one fact – the results of Spring Training provide NO indication of what to expect once the regular season begins. Sure the world champion New York Yankees also finished first in the Grapefruit League last year, but the Philadelphia Phillies (the team that went on to win the NL Pennant) finished in twelfth place with a record of 13-19-2. What does that mean? Absolutely nothing!

The rosters are not genuine, the stats do not count, and the games are meaningless. Far too much time is wasted on more than a month of exhibition, when it could all realistically be condensed into a much shorter period of time. If the powers that be want to ensure that the baseball season does not extend into November, I have the solution – CUT OUT SPRING TRAINING!

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The Tony LaRussa, Bobby Cox, and Joe Torre Debate – Who’s Joe Daddy?

March 10, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Loyal Homer.

Baseball fans today are living during a special era, one in which they are privy to witnessing three of the greatest managers that have ever lived: Bobby Cox, Tony LaRussa, and Joe Torre. All three of these managers are living legends. Together they are a triumvirate of baseball greatness, collectively accumulating 7,211 wins, 16 pennants and seven World Series titles.

Today’s debate attempts to answer a difficult question, which one of these living legends is the greatest manager? Each man provides a unique coaching style and each has accomplished more than most managers dream, which makes the question extremely hard for most people. But then again, I (Babe Ruthless) am not like most people. Looking at the statistics it is undeniable that one of these managers’ star shines brighter than the rest – Mr. Torre.

Admittedly Joe Torre trails Bobby Cox and Tony LaRussa in wins, but wins do not necessarily translate into World Series trophies. In terms of championships, Torre is no doubt superior to Bobby Cox and Tony LaRussa. Torre has managed his way to four World Series championships, one in 1996 and a three-peat from 1998 through 2000. A three-peat for crying out loud! Who does that!? Winning back-to-back World Series is a feat very few ever accomplish, but managing a team to back-to-back-to-back championships is ridiculously impressive. During his managerial career Joe Torre has accumulated twice the World Series hardware that LaRussa has and four times more than Bobby Cox. Which is all the more impressive considering two of Torre’s four titles were won against Atlanta Braves teams managed by Bobby Cox. Torre’s Yanks bested the Bravos four games to two in 1996, then swept them outright in 1999. Although none of Torre’s World Series teams have contended against LaRussa’s Cardinals, he asserted his managerial dominance against the Red Birds in the 2009 National League Divisional Series. Just about anyway you cut it, Joe Torre is a winner… and his World Series victories leave no doubt about who is the best manager.

It should also be noted that most of Torre’s accomplishments as a manager were achieved in one of the most challenging sports markets in the world – New York City. Each year the Yankees set out to win the World Series, and any year they do not is considered a failure. That is an incredible amount of pressure. Add to that the fact that his every move was scrutinized under the microscope of the New York media, and that he had to please the hardest boss to work for in sports, George Steinbrenner, and we are talking about a job that makes air traffic controllers say, “Now that sounds stressful!” Seriously, Steinbrenner changed managers 20 times in 23 seasons. For Joe Torre to have stayed in the Bronx as long as he did is an incredible feat.

Cox and LaRussa are excellent managers. Of the three, each has their claim to fame. LaRussa has the most wins of the three with 2,552 wins (third all time). Cox has the highest overall winning percentage .556 spread across 28 seasons. (He also deserves a tip of the cap for owning the most career ejections.) But, do either of those factors compare with Torre’s claim – winning four World Series championships? No. The World Series is the reason we even have a regular season. Think about how those athletes put up seemingly unbelievable, or even record breaking, individual performances in playoff losses. The quality athletes will usually admit that they would gladly trade their individual accomplishments in order to keep their teams championship hopes alive. Why? Because the championship is what truly matters. Joe Torre has been able to bring his team more championships than Cox and LaRussa combined. That sets him apart as the greatest manager in the game today.

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The Tony LaRussa, Bobby Cox, and Joe Torre Debate – The Man with the Golden Touch

March 10, 2010

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For any manager, 2,000 wins is impressive. I do not care who you are or how you got them! In fact, there are only ten managers in the entire 100+ year history of Major League Baseball who have accomplished that feat. Of those ten managers, seven have been inducted into the Hall of Fame. Three, however, have not been inducted into that hallowed hall.

Because they are still managing!

For the only time in Major League history, three managers with more than 2000 wins are active at the same time – Los Angeles Dodgers Manager Joe Torre, Atlanta Braves Manager Bobby Cox, and St. Louis Cardinals Manager Tony LaRussa.

While there is no doubt that all three of these managers will eventually join their 2,000-win fraternity brothers in Cooperstown, you can always count on TSD to dissect even the greatest of accomplishments in order to rank them among each other. Furthermore, you can always count on Bleacher Fan to give the CORRECT arguments in resolving any such debate!

The greatest of the three managing legends still active in baseball today is Tony LaRussa!

I can hear you screaming already, “Torre’s got more rings! Or, ”Bobby Cox DOMINATED in the ‘90s won 14 consecutive division titles and five World Series appearances during that same run!”

While those results are impressive (and clearly HOF worthy), neither Cox nor Torre have been able to do what LaRussa has done, which is to take every single team he has ever coached into the postseason at least once.

Although both Cox and Torre have had ample postseason experience (and success), they both have blemishes on their resumé where an entire stint for at least one Major League ball club failed to warrant a postseason appearance (Torre with the New York Mets and the St. Louis Cardinals, and Cox with the Braves during his FIRST run from 1978-1981). Simply put, LaRussa is the best manager of the modern era because he can win WHEREVER he goes. It does not matter which uniform he puts on, having LaRussa in your dugout AUTOMATICALLY makes you a postseason threat.

LaRussa took over for the 46-60 Chicago White Sox midway through the 1979 season, and his impact was immediately felt on Chicago’s South side (Editor’s Note: Because he shot someone?), as the White Sox would finish the season at .500 (27-27) under the rookie manager. By 1983, LaRussa had the White Sox playing in the ALCS as Eastern Division champions (by that time, Torre had already been fired from the New York Mets with Cox suffering the same fate in Atlanta).

After LaRussa was fired by the White Sox in 1986, he was called up almost immediately by the 31-52 Oakland Athletics, and once again brought immediate results. He closed out the A’s 1986 season by winning 45 of their final 79 games. Just two short years later, LaRussa became the first between him, Cox, and Torre experience the World Series, as he led the A’s in claiming the 1988 AL Pennant. That year was just the beginning for LaRussa’s A’s, though, as they would go on to claim two more consecutive AL Pennants and a World Series Championship all between 1988 and 1990. Just two years later, LaRussa reached the ALCS one more time as the Western Division Champions.

After the death of Athletics’ owner Walter Haas, Jr. in 1995, LaRussa left Oakland to become manager of the St. Louis Cardinals, where he has remained.

What happened since LaRussa came to St. Louis? You guessed it – SEVEN more division championships, TWO National League Pennants, and ANOTHER World Series ring. The 2006 World Series Championship also earned LaRussa a very special place in baseball history, as he became only the second manager ever, along with Sparky Anderson, to win World Series titles in both the American and the National League.

In recognition for his ability to win ANYWHERE, LaRussa has also been named Manager of the Year at least once with each of the ball clubs he has managed, and has earned the title a total of four times – yet another accolade that Cox and Torre are unable to match. Cox also has four Manager of the Year awards, but failed to win any during his first stint in Atlanta. Torre, despite all his rings, has only won the award twice.

If Tony LaRussa were digging for gold, he would have struck it rich several times over, while Cox and Torre each over the course of their long careers found only one mine that paid off. Granted, the mines discovered by Cox and Torre provided them with success for a period of several consecutive years, but they eventually exhausted that mine, and have been unable to find any more success since that time.

Tony LaRussa is the manager with the golden touch!

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The Tony LaRussa, Bobby Cox, and Joe Torre Debate – Cox is Simply The Best

March 10, 2010

Read the opposing arguments from Bleacher Fan and Babe Ruthless.

It is always nice to know that you have a boss who fully appreciates what you do. It is always nice to know that he has your back when speaking to the media. Wouldn’t it be nice to have a boss who puts you in a position to succeed, and if you do not succeed that first time, will still give you words of encouragement to succeed the next time? Who is the guy, you ask, and why can’t I work for him? Well, it is none other than Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox.

Cox enters the 2010 campaign with 2,413 wins, the fourth most of all time. From 1991-2005, his Braves teams won 14 consecutive division championships. One of the main criticisms of the Braves during Cox’s tenure is that his teams have only one World Series. While that is an unavoidable fact, winning so many consecutive division titles is unprecedented, and will likely never be done again.

One of the great things about Bobby Cox, and what makes him popular with his players, is that he always has their back before, during, and after the game. He is barking after every pitch as he tries to get every inch of the strike zone to go his team’s way. His all time record of 151 ejections back that up, and trust me, many of those ejections were because of him arguing balls and strikes.

I had the opportunity to meet Bobby back in the summer of 1999. I won a contest to become part of the media for one game. Once I overcame my feeling of shock and awe from watching batting practice from behind home plate, I looked for Bobby and found him fielding throws from the position players at first base. I mingled my way over that way and waited for him. As he started walking toward the dugout, I caught his attention and asked if he had a moment to spare. He said, “Sure son.” We talked for three or four minutes. It was more of a conversation than a Q&A. Former Braves pitcher Kevin Millwood had been selected to the All-Star team that day and he was raving about Millwood. He also stated that he still had the same passion for the game that day that he had coming up to the big leagues as a New York Yankee (one of his only faults… that’s for you, Babe Ruthless). He demonstrated a passion I still believe he has to this day. I gained a greater appreciation for Bobby Cox that day. Here I was, a 17-year-old skinny kid (at the time anyway!) and he spoke to me like I had been around the game for 40 years. He treats people with respect and treats the game of baseball with respect. As I type this, I am looking at a photograph I have with Bobby. It is framed and is hanging up on the wall in my den. He has that first base glove on. That is Bobby Cox for you!

This season is set to be Bobby Cox’s swan song as he plans to hang up the spikes. It is going to be a sad day for Braves fans, and a day this particular Braves fan is dreading. It will be the end of an era. With all due respect to guys like Joe Torre and Tony LaRussa, #6 is simply the best. You cannot replace a guy like Bobby Cox. He and the Braves would love nothing more than for him to go out a winner.

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